what should I expect..... tren ace, abombs and test e...

**tripmachine** · 02-25-2009, 01:14 PM

Well I am just pretty curious as to what you guys think I should expect from this cycle.... a little history and then I'll tell you how my cycle is as of now...

I started working out again in oct. 2007 but before I did I snapped a before picture just to keep for motivation and progress comparison..... here is what I looked like... 6'2" 220 lbs

I worked out for about 3 months before taking anything other than tren extreme that I picked up from my local nutrition shop.... that seemed to help out nicely but I was in the works of ordering my cycle. I started this cycle:

wk 1-13 test e 500mg week
wk 1-10 tren e 400mg per week

That cycle ended around sept. of '08 and this is what i looked like after about 11 months.... 6'2" 190lbs blue eyes

Ok so what I'm wanting to get at is I have gained a bit of bf% since then because of a new job I took on.... the last 3 months I have been traveling about 80% of the time which sucked! It through me way off track so I'm guessing my bf% right now is around 15-17% tops.... I quit that position recently because it was killing my life style and I really didn't want to live that way. Now I'm back on track and am more motivated than ever before! I just started this cycle:

wk 1-13 test e 500mg week (front load 1g first week)
wk 2-11 tren ace 400mg per week (started week 2 cause I couldn't week 1)
wk 1-6 anadrol 50mg per day
currently i'm in week 2 of my cycle.... 7 days on anadrol and just did my second front load injection the other day.

I'm just curious and am looking for opinions....

**I really want to be ripped up by summer time but also want to get some good nice size as well, should I be 'bulking' for the first 6 weeks? and then after the drol should I be cutting up? or should I just be eating lots of CLEAN foods and get some dnp , clen /t3 for later on to shred me up?

**will the anadrol make a huge difference from my first cycle listed above? Also will the tren ace be much better than the tren e i used do you think?

Oh yeah I haven't done any cardio between that first and second pic..... I'm guessing if I added cardio I'd have to eat even more while bulking? or maybe I shouldn't do cardio while on the anadrol? Honestly I don't see many questions in this post but maybe if anyone is bored and wants to help me out with a few pointers or words of advice i'd certainly appreciate it!

My diet is pretty good right now and I'm happy about it.... I'm intaking about 350-400g protein daily with about 200g carbs and about 50-70g fat which puts me around 2800-3200 calories a day... It's hard for me to get back into eating a lot but I'm getting used to it again. Thanks for any help, tips, advice that can be offered! I'm really getting excited to see what this adrol will do as well as this tren ace.

**tripmachine** · 02-25-2009, 01:42 PM

oh yeah.... will this assist in getting me lots of pu$$y this summer too!?!?! ;]

***T-MOS*** · 02-25-2009, 01:46 PM

AGE
HEIGHT
WEIGHT

Previous cycles
What do you have for PCT for this cycle?

Tren is NOT for the novice !!!

bodyfat% should be under 15 before using real steroids !!!

Diet looks like you are light on carbs.

Post your typical days food intake and times you eat it so we can see

**tripmachine** · 02-25-2009, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

AGE
HEIGHT
WEIGHT

Previous cycles
What do you have for PCT for this cycle?

Tren is NOT for the novice !!!

bodyfat% should be under 15 before using real steroids !!!

Diet looks like you are light on carbs.

Post your typical days food intake and times you eat it so we can see

This is probably my 6th cycle I'd have to say..... I've started off with a dbol only cycle a long time ago which I regretted of course... I have done test only before at 250mg per week which wasn't major but it worked out for me even though it was such a low dose. I have done dbol 50mg/day, test e 500mg /wk I've also done deca 300mg wk, test 500mg, wk and the cycle i stated in the first post....

I still am 6'2" tall and now I currently weigh about 195lbs My body fat is just a guess but it's probably pretty accurate... I have already started the cycle at being 15-16% so I'm probably not going to stop it right now to drop 1-2% bf and start it up again unless you suggest that is a good idea.....?

I don't mind eating more carbs than that at all..... I love carbs! I would love to increase those so I will..... let me post a sample diet of what I generally eat each day.

total calories: 2934
Fat(g) Carbs(g) Prot(g) KCals
76.34 212.66 358.83 2934

Breakfast 5.23 57.64 60.54 507
3/4 cup, dry, yields Oatmeal 3.58 38.05 9.09 218
1 serving Perfect Low Carb Isopure Whey Protein Isolate - Dutch Chocolate 1.00 3.00 50.00 220
1 1/2 cups whole Strawberries 0.65 16.59 1.45 69
Add Item

Lunch 47.61 61.63 68.92 911
12 Almonds 7.29 2.84 3.06 83
0.4 can Canned Tuna 0.52 - 16.33 74
1 serving Fat Free Cottage Cheese - 5.00 14.00 80
1 serving Fat Free Cottage Cheese - 5.00 14.00 80
2 servings Lo-carb Monster Energy - 6.00 - 20
3 oz Pistachio Nuts 37.80 23.79 17.53 474
1 serving Seven Grain Bread 2.00 19.00 4.00 100
Add Item

Dinner 2.27 28.25 85.83 469
0.4 can Canned Tuna 0.52 - 16.33 74
1 serving Double Fiber Bread 1.00 16.00 4.00 70
2 servings Fat Free Cottage Cheese - 10.00 28.00 160
3/4 serving isopure 0.75 2.25 37.50 165
Add Item

Snacks / Other 21.23 65.14 143.54 1047
1 1/2 servings Fat Free Cottage Cheese - 7.50 21.00 120
3/4 cup, dry, yields Oatmeal 3.58 38.05 9.09 218
1 serving Perfect Low Carb Isopure Whey Protein Isolate - Dutch Chocolate 1.00 3.00 50.00 220
1 1/2 cups whole Strawberries 0.65 16.59 1.45 69
2 servings Triple Trimmed Beef Filet Mignon (5 oz) 16.00 - 62.00 420

I have used tren e before and it worked great from where I started at 18% bf.... I know it should have been less than that but back then I didn't know that.... Now I know i'm just around 15% but can't go get dunked in a tank to figure it out exactly but I'm not at 18% that's for certain. The veggies aren't listed in that diet log but I do eat them.... to be honest I am not eating ENOUGH veggies though so that's something that needs to change.

eating times are when I wake up 9 a.m., then 11:45 a.m. 2:00 p.m. and 4:30 p.m. train around 6p.m. til 7 or 7:30 p.m. PWO shake at 7:30p.m. and PWO meal at 9:30-10p.m. then snack on almonds, cottage cheese or protein shake / almonds before and around bed time.... I drink 1 1/2 gallons of water per day (thanks to my gallon jug ;p ) Thanks for taking your time to help me out and point things out that need to be adjusted or changed..... Much appreciated!!!

**tripmachine** · 02-25-2009, 02:03 PM

lol it looks like it's a bit hard to read all those macros since I just copied and pasted..... try clicking this link.... it should show you my diet in an easier manner to read... http://fatsecret.com/Diary.aspx?pa=f...4294&id=102220

Thanks!!

***T-MOS*** · 02-25-2009, 02:16 PM

Diet does need work, but yes its a bit hard to read.

at first glance, I see not enough meals. You should shoot for 6-8 meals, one every 3 hours you are awake.

Breakfast, ditch the powder and add WHOLE FOOD proteins like eggs and egg whites

Same with lunch, less than half a can of tuna?? hell eat one or two cans

same with dinner,

just looks like not enough GOOD calories to grow .... you got to EAT EAT EAT !! I see no red meat or chicken....Have to eat good to grow large

again, thats just a first glance...Phate is a good one to break down the entire diet

you can also check out the diet section here on how to diet and how to bulk

At 6'2" and ONLY 195, you can EASILY get to 220 with just the right food and no steroids !!!

**tripmachine** · 02-25-2009, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

Diet does need work, but yes its a bit hard to read.

at first glance, I see not enough meals. You should shoot for 6-8 meals, one every 3 hours you are awake. The reason you only see 4 meals is because the diet macro program i use only allows me to add 4 meals.... so all of that food is split up throughout the day at the times I have stated in post #4 on this thread. So basically I am eating every 3 hours I'm awake...

Breakfast, ditch the powder and add WHOLE FOOD proteins like eggs and egg whites I can do this.... the reason I don't is because I don't have much time in the mornings but I can figure it out as to where 5 whites + 1 egg and toast will be my first meal upon waking.... i will start doing that tomorrow.

Same with lunch, less than half a can of tuna?? hell eat one or two cans
actually lunch when tuna is eaten it's 1 can of tuna... this falls back to that damn macro program i use... i use it to help me keep track and focussed on my own eating and knowing if i need to add food (which it seems i do)
same with dinner,

just looks like not enough GOOD calories to grow .... you got to EAT EAT EAT !! I see no red meat or chicken....Have to eat good to grow large That was just 1 day of eating.... that isn't my everyday diet I have and follow....for example today I have a large pack of chicken breast strips grilled from costco I'm going to throw in some whole wheat tortillas with some pinto beans, the other night i had a 9oz fillet..... so i am eating other good sources of protein.

again, thats just a first glance...Phate is a good one to break down the entire diet

you can also check out the diet section here on how to diet and how to bulk

At 6'2" and ONLY 195, you can EASILY get to 220 with just the right food and no steroids !!!

problem with that though is I am on a cycle right now and plan to go through with it.... I hope that's alright.... my diet is much better than a lot of peoples diets (meaning many people i know in person) but I really do appreciate you helping me out with it.... I DO know it needs improvements and that's why I'm glad you're able to chime in and give me some good advice! I will take what you say and apply it. I am not stopping this cycle to gain 25 lbs naturally since I have already started.... unless out of all honesty you think it's a good idea to stop now? I don't think you'd say it is though would you?

Oh yeah I have nolvadex , clomid, hcg , and letro all on hand for my pct.... i'm also taking .25 letro daily to make sure i keep gyno away.... i'm monitoring my nipples daily.

**tripmachine** · 02-25-2009, 02:38 PM

oops forgot to mention my age.... i'm 28

**tripmachine** · 02-25-2009, 03:20 PM

Maybe I should just post a few simple questions I have because I think I have been doing too much typing and I still have these questions.....

1.) will tren ace be any different than the tren e i used in my previous cycle? I mean since it's a shorter ester and gets going quicker than the enanthate does would that mean i'd benefit using the ace more at 10 weeks than the enanthate at 10 weeks?

2.) i really want to be ripped with decent size by summer.... i'd like to weigh 195-200 ripped..... should i be bulking right now and cutting after the cycle?? or bulking for 6 weeks of this cycle and cutting the last of it??

3.) what should I expect to see from this anadrol to know it's doing something and working... i'm on day 7 of it today and I really don't know if I notice it yet or not..... I did have test flu but that was from the test..... I did have some headaches the last few days but I don't know if it was from the anadrol...... at what day or week should i know it's legit and working?

Thanks!!

***T-MOS*** · 02-25-2009, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by tripmachine

Maybe I should just post a few simple questions I have because I think I have been doing too much typing and I still have these questions.....

1.) will tren ace be any different than the tren e i used in my previous cycle? I mean since it's a shorter ester and gets going quicker than the enanthate does would that mean i'd benefit using the ace more at 10 weeks than the enanthate at 10 weeks?

2.) i really want to be ripped with decent size by summer.... i'd like to weigh 195-200 ripped..... should i be bulking right now and cutting after the cycle?? or bulking for 6 weeks of this cycle and cutting the last of it??

3.) what should I expect to see from this anadrol to know it's doing something and working... i'm on day 7 of it today and I really don't know if I notice it yet or not..... I did have test flu but that was from the test..... I did have some headaches the last few days but I don't know if it was from the anadrol...... at what day or week should i know it's legit and working?

Thanks!!

Didn't mean for you to stop cycle, just that you COULD HAVE gotten there naturally if eating was better. Stay on your cylce, But EAT EAT EAT

To try to answer your questions

1. Tren ace will work just like tren E only faster. You should see similar gains at the same MGS/week

2. bulking and cutting is hard to do in the same cycle. If you have time enough after the cycle, that is when I would change my diet and start cutting and maybe adding Clen with PCT

3. Anadrol should kick in by the second week if not sooner. You should start to feel stronger

**tripmachine** · 02-25-2009, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

Didn't mean for you to stop cycle, just that you COULD HAVE gotten there naturally if eating was better. Stay on your cylce, But EAT EAT EAT

To try to answer your questions

1. Tren ace will work just like tren E only faster. You should see similar gains at the same MGS/week

2. bulking and cutting is hard to do in the same cycle. If you have time enough after the cycle, that is when I would change my diet and start cutting and maybe adding Clen with PCT

3. Anadrol should kick in by the second week if not sooner. You should start to feel stronger

awesome! Thanks again for your help!! I'm excited and obsessed with everything right now regarding nutrition, working out and cycling..... I am going to take full advantage of this. Thanks again! :]