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    Cycle while studying?

    G'day!

    I’m pretty keen to get started on my third cycle.

    NPP: 500mg/week
    Test Prop: 400mg/week
    D’bol: 210mg/week

    24 years old.
    82 Kilos
    15% BF - estimate

    Needless to say I'm very excited!

    However, i am currently studying for an important exam which i will sit in about 5 weeks. This will not interfere with my sleeping, eating and training patterns but I'm a little concerned that i will have trouble studying while on cycle. Obviously i’ve never cycled whilst studying before.

    If anyone has any advice or is willing to share their past experiences i would be most grateful.

    Kindest regards.

    PS: Last 2 cycles i never noticed any ‘roid rage ’ or the like...

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    height?

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    Roid Rage ....jesh. Honestly, the only time I ever get "mad" when I take somthing, is ECA. I get more frustrated by that than I ever have off anything.

    Test tends to mix up my sleep, but it also gives you that "boost" too. While I can't sleep as well, I am never really tired either.

    A lot of times, thinking about sleep too much is the cause of lack of.

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    what you running for PCT?

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    Sorry Phate. Height 5'11"

    J-Dogg. So you're suggesting that if the cycle is going to cause problems with my study, it will only be due to disrupted sleeping?

    Cheers.

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    I've never ran Prop because i hate feeling like a pin cushion, but test e always gave me a more energy.

    If anything, it would give your problems through your PCT (which you better have in check).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian_Gray View Post
    Sorry Phate. Height 5'11"

    J-Dogg. So you're suggesting that if the cycle is going to cause problems with my study, it will only be due to disrupted sleeping?

    Cheers.
    no offense bro, but you're 180lbs at 5'11 and on your third cycle? what did you start at?

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    PCT Nolvadex 40mg ED for 1 week then 20mg ED for another 2 weeks. This is what I have done in the past will no problems.

    If i experience Gyno and the Nolva doesn't resolve the problem i will have to assume its from the progesterone conversion of NPP and will have to see a doctor for HCG prescription. Unfortunately this is the only way i can get my hands on HCG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian_Gray View Post
    PCT Nolvadex 40mg ED for 1 week then 20mg ED for another 2 weeks. This is what I have done in the past will no problems.

    If i experience Gyno and the Nolva doesn't resolve the problem i will have to assume its from the progesterone conversion of NPP and will have to see a doctor for HCG prescription. Unfortunately this is the only way i can get my hands on HCG.
    nolva will make the problem worse if you run it on cycle with a 19nor as nolva increases sensitivity of the progestrone receptors

    if you get gyno you need letro and for this cycle you should have hcg anyway for pct

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    Phate i got myself up to 90Kgs on my second cycle with a very low BF%. Unfortunately i bacame very sick at mid last year and lost alot of muscle, also gained lost of fat.

    My last cycle ended in March last year.

    I missed alot of training due to being sick and have only been back at the gym for 16 weeks now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian_Gray View Post
    Phate i got myself up to 90Kgs on my second cycle with a very low BF%. Unfortunately i bacame very sick at mid last year and lost alot of muscle, also gained lost of fat.

    My last cycle ended in March last year.

    I missed alot of training due to being sick and have only been back at the gym for 16 weeks now.
    k, like i said, i don't mean to flame, it's just that when people come on here on their 3,4,5,6 whatever cycles and they are smaller than me(i haven't cycled) then i'm a little suspect that their diet is off, but i understand there's nothing you can do about getting ill

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    Nah thats fine mate i understand.

    I'm pretty cluey about diet and training. I obviously have alot more to learn about gear though. Which is fine i'm always open to advice.

    So i sould be running letro for PCT. Ok i'll try get some.

    Unfortunately i cannot get my hands on HCG . I need to see a doctor if and when i need it.

    Perhaps i've been lucky only using Nolva for PCT in the past?

    Back to my question. No one see's cycle as affecting my studies?

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    If people think i shouldnt cycle without letro on hand, then i wont. I'd prefer do this the smart way.

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    you don't use letro for pct as that can cause estrogen rebound, it's just incase you get or start getting gyno

    a good pct for you would be hcg , nolva, and clomid, possibly aromasin if you can get it

    personally i would get nolva, clomid, hcg, letro, arimidex and aromasin if you can before you start the cycle, always good things to have around

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    Yeah getting all this stuff is tough for me. Legit Nolva, no problems. Everything else is a struggle. I will do my best over the next couple of weeks. Might have to walk up to some BB's at the gym and straight up ask them ha ha.

    Yeah i read the Letro profile in the PCT forum a while ago and remember the possible rebound effect.

    I'm also taking Finasteride (spelling?) for hairloss. 1.25mgs/day

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian_Gray View Post
    Yeah getting all this stuff is tough for me. Legit Nolva, no problems. Everything else is a struggle. I will do my best over the next couple of weeks. Might have to walk up to some BB's at the gym and straight up ask them ha ha.

    Yeah i read the Letro profile in the PCT forum a while ago and remember the possible rebound effect.

    I'm also taking Finasteride (spelling?) for hairloss. 1.25mgs/day

    Cheers.
    you spelled it right, yeah i'm sure it's a pain in oz

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    Yeah mate it sucks balls!!!!!!

    You gotta trust stuff in dodgey looking viles because people bring it over in creative ways, then have to rebottle. I would never use any of it without first seeing my mate use it. He's a big boy - seems to work A-OK but still very scary looking at it for the first time.

    Also every doctor that prescribes anything ends up getting done in. Spewing!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian_Gray View Post
    Yeah mate it sucks balls!!!!!!

    You gotta trust stuff in dodgey looking viles because people bring it over in creative ways, then have to rebottle. I would never use any of it without first seeing my mate use it. He's a big boy - seems to work A-OK but still very scary looking at it for the first time.

    Also every doctor that prescribes anything ends up getting done in. Spewing!!!!
    move here, lol

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    ill let you know after my Micro II exam tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian_Gray View Post
    PCT Nolvadex 40mg ED for 1 week then 20mg ED for another 2 weeks. This is what I have done in the past will no problems.

    If i experience Gyno and the Nolva doesn't resolve the problem i will have to assume its from the progesterone conversion of NPP and will have to see a doctor for HCG prescription. Unfortunately this is the only way i can get my hands on HCG.
    dont think HCG is going to work for gyno. estrogen or progesterone related.
    i personally dont worry about progesterone in relation to gyno. think it takes elevated estrogen for progesterone to become a problem. it can at worst only aggravate estrogenic symptoms.
    my concern when running deca is its ability activate estrogen response elements through the androgen receptor. in which case no matter what you use isnt going to work (AI/SERM). well unless you block the AR.. but then there would be no gains.

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    Thanks Mammon i appreciate your opinion!

    So no one seems to think it will effect my study ha ha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian_Gray View Post
    Thanks Mammon i appreciate your opinion!

    So no one seems to think it will effect my study ha ha?
    it shouldn't, unless you are studying with supermodels, then you might have to take fcuk breaks every couple minutes

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    Ha ha!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorian_Gray View Post
    Thanks Mammon i appreciate your opinion!

    So no one seems to think it will effect my study ha ha?
    I cruised through the entire second semester on a cycle, studying is definitely not a problem on AAS.

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    Awesome.

    Cheers for your help gentlemen!!!

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