1st cycle opinions plz

**Andy123** · 03-17-2009, 06:49 PM

Hi everyone, just posting my very first cycle. Izd appreciate any feedback on it.

10 week cycle
sust250- 1cc monday and thursday
deca200- 1cc monday and thursday
1month dbol 25mg

going to start dbol 1 week before injections.
going to start with the sust250 first then finish with the deca .
PCT will be clomid first 2 weeks 100mg then 2 more weeks 50mg
nolvadex for a month.

sorry forgot to add it
height 6foot
weight 215
been training for about 2 years now
19% bf

**Mammon** · 03-17-2009, 06:56 PM

age/ststs/years training

why would you start test and finish with deca

**Matt** · 03-17-2009, 06:56 PM

Stats
Bf%
weight
Height
Training history????

***T-MOS*** · 03-17-2009, 07:05 PM

stats please,

I would not run three different compounds for my first cycle. how will you know what is working good and bad on your body????

**jbm** · 03-17-2009, 07:12 PM

Yeah! STATS!

**avitar290** · 03-17-2009, 07:31 PM

I know everyone asks for stats, and rightly so, but I have always read that a first cycle should be Testosterone ONLY! Find out what kind of Test you can get your hands on and do a 12 week cycle at about 500mL per week. Split the dose up into two injections per week at 250mL per injection. Then wait 18 days after last injection to start a PCT of Nolva/Clomid, maybe throw in some Arimadex. This should last 4 to 6 weeks.

This is what I've read.

**Mammon** · 03-17-2009, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by avitar290

I know everyone asks for stats, and rightly so, but I have always read that a first cycle should be Testosterone ONLY! Find out what kind of Test you can get your hands on and do a 12 week cycle at about 500mL per week. Split the dose up into two injections per week at 250mL per injection. Then wait 18 days after last injection to start a PCT of Nolva/Clomid, maybe throw in some Arimadex. This should last 4 to 6 weeks.

This is what I've read.

^^^ pct start time would be determined by the ester.

***T-MOS*** · 03-17-2009, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by avitar290

I know everyone asks for stats, and rightly so, but I have always read that a first cycle should be Testosterone ONLY! Find out what kind of Test you can get your hands on and do a 12 week cycle at about 500mL per week. Split the dose up into two injections per week at 250mL per injection. Then wait 18 days after last injection to start a PCT of Nolva/Clomid, maybe throw in some Arimadex. This should last 4 to 6 weeks.

This is what I've read.

this is really a general statement and NOT all accurate

PCT time depends on the ester of the Test used its NOT always 18 days

injecting isn't ALWAYS twice a week. If he had Prop as his test, he would have to shoot EOD or ED same with sust.

So, be careful how you deal out advice please

Test ONLY for first cycle is good advice though!!

**Spartan ^** · 03-17-2009, 07:42 PM

Avitar....little hint on newbies....unless you know what your talking about...just read and learn. Thanx for the help in making all us newbs look like idiots!

**Matt** · 03-17-2009, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by avitar290

I know everyone asks for stats, and rightly so, but I have always read that a first cycle should be Testosterone ONLY! Find out what kind of Test you can get your hands on and do a 12 week cycle at about 500mL per week. Split the dose up into two injections per week at 250mL per injection. Then wait 18 days after last injection to start a PCT of Nolva/Clomid, maybe throw in some Arimadex. This should last 4 to 6 weeks.

This is what I've read.

We also wait until we recieve the stats before giving out any advice...

**Njectable** · 03-17-2009, 07:48 PM

lol, i think he meant well

**Mammon** · 03-17-2009, 07:52 PM

lol.. i do to.. he was trying. if it was cyp he would have been right on..
the diffferent esters threw him off..

**Andy123** · 03-17-2009, 08:15 PM

ok guys
19% bf, 6foot, 215pounds, been training for 2 years.

**jbm** · 03-17-2009, 08:20 PM

age?

**rksdmf** · 03-17-2009, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by T-MOS

stats please,

I would not run three different compounds for my first cycle. how will you know what is working good and bad on your body????

agreed

**MD22** · 03-17-2009, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by jbm

age?

19% bf is high.. 15% and lower is ideal for cycling. You'll be much happier with your results.

**Andy123** · 03-17-2009, 08:34 PM

im 29. so basicaly lowering bf would give me better results then

**jbm** · 03-17-2009, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Andy123

im 29. so basicaly lowering bf would give me better results then

You got that right bro! lower than 15%.

**Andy123** · 03-17-2009, 08:49 PM

thanks guys for all the input. one of my reasons for doing the cycle is to get a bit leaner. im not expecting to get shredded or anything like that. just some size n a bit leaner.

***T-MOS*** · 03-17-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Andy123

thanks guys for all the input. one of my reasons for doing the cycle is to get a bit leaner. im not expecting to get shredded or anything like that. just some size n a bit leaner.

steroids don't make you leaner, they will help, but your diet has to be spot on for losing bodyfat

at higher than 15 % bf, you increase your health risks during cycle, like harder on your heart, high blood pressure, more estrogen sides etc...