new on here just need some feedback on my CYCLE!!!

[kavva1987]

Hi guys im new to all this bloging/Forum thing but i had a question and was wondering if any veterans out there could help me
Im 21 6ft 2 and 195 pounds dont know how much BF% but not alot can see my abs well i have been training since i was 16 and have done 2 cycles one at 18 just d-bol and sust and the other one about a year ago i did ( sust 250mg/ week , deca 200mg/week, Eq Bolton 250mg/ week D-bol 30mg ED ) without PCT or anything and got very good results without any of the sides that i read on all these threads!!!...
By the way i didnt know about PCT then..
So ive now geard up go it yesterday infact..
and i want to do

(sust 250 mg + test E 250mg) 2 ml one shot per week for/ 12 weeks

Deca 200 mg 1 ml per week for/ 8 weeks

Eq Bolton 500mg 2 ml per week for/ 12 weeks

D-Bol/ week 1-3 30mg week 4-9 50 mg

HGH 5 iu's per day for 12 months

IGF-R1 50mcg per day intramascularly 50 days on 20 of for 12 months

Clebuterol start at 20mg ED and work my way
up to 60-80 mg for the cycle and in to PCT

Arimidex 0.25 mg ED for entyre cycle

HCG week 1-3 1500iu's per week / week 7-10 1500iu's / week 14-16 1500iu's

Nolvadex and Clomid For PCT together with HCG and Clebuterol..

I think this cycle is good enough to get me ready for my holidays in August but since my last cycle i havent had time to work out just pushups, situps and things like that at home i just started the gym last week again after a solid 4.5 years of training and a years break will that efect my gains u think??????

Just to recap I have already got the gear so theres no turning back just need some opinions from u guys or a RE Arange on my cycle but with the meds ive already got...
I appreciate ur help..

[subaruwrx04]

Welcome.. There are mainy people here that will assist you with this..

[T-MOS]

Welcome to AR

what do you think you are going to get out of this cylce??

There are WAY too many compounds that are NOT needed and you already know you are too young.

9 weeks of dbol is overkill unless you can also purchase a new liver

Sust AND Test E? WHY, you know test is test right???? makes NO sense at all, please explain your reasoning here????

I wouldn't run Eq for less than 16 weeks, but......

Clen throughout the whole cycle is a bit much, it needs cycled on and off or needs to be used with another compound to upregulate the receptors every third week

I would start the HGH 3 months before you start the steroid portion, but then again this cycle is NOT well put together so....

GOOD LUCK

[D7M]

i havent had time to work out just pushups, situps and things like that at home i just started the gym last week again after a solid 4.5 years of training and a years break will that efect my gains u think??????

Just to recap I have already got the gear so theres no turning back

waaay too much going on here.

I wouldn't even suggest you cycle at your age, but if you do, stick one compound (test).

If you've been out of the game for a bit, and only doing push ups and situps, it's best to build back up to your natural base.

yes, there is turning back. Your gear won't go bad.

[Steroid-Master]

BTW (by the way) you mentioned blogging. What we do here isn't considered blogging. I'ts just posting questions and answers on a steroid forum. A blog means (a contraction of the term "Web log") is a Web site, usually maintained by an individual with regular entries of commentary, descriptions. Hope that helped clear that up.

[kavva1987]

Hi and thanks for your responses everyone is appreciated

About the D-bol for 9 weeks being an overkill I have done an 8week cycle my second one with milk thistle ( I don’t know how much that helps ) and my liver tests came out very good after that but as I said it’s only my third cycle. Im not trying to be a smart ass or anything just trying to learn a bit more!!!!.

About the sust + test e I thought it would be better because of the 4 tests in the sust plus I have heard that sust and test e work differently in the body???

And what is that other compound I should take with the CLEN to up regulate the receptors.

With the EQ I have 3x 10 ML bottles so I can run it for 15 weeks

[kavva1987]

Plus i have just started the HGH 5iu a day 2.5 mornung 2.5 evening doses so maybe i could squeeze that in a couple of months before i start my cycle..together with the IGF starting next week

[johnnybigguns]

IMO that cycle looks like crap
Stick with a single ester test.
Sust needs to be shot every other day
Deca should be ran longer.
EQ is usually recommended to be ran 16 weeks.
At your age I definitely wouldn't touch HGH
Do you have any clue on how expensive this all would be

[kavva1987]

of course i do i already got it!!! exsept the hgh that i got for 8 month and igf i got for 3 50 day cycles...

[D7M]

At your age I definitely wouldn't touch HGH

Do you have any clue on how expensive this all would be

agreed!

Yah, where is a 21yr old getting the money to run HGH for a year!

[kavva1987]

Hey is the point where i get my money from
I just need some advise Alright

[tripmachine]

I think some advice was given.....

1.) Don't cycle, you're too young
2.) NO point in running sust with test e so don't do it.
3.) Sell the HGH to someone else because you shouldn't use it.
4.) Just because your liver was fine at one point doesn't mean it will always be ok. 9 weeks on dbol is too long like stated above. You ARE here for a reason correct? t-mos knows his sh!t so when he says 9 weeks is too long for dbol maybe you shouldn't try to convince him it's not by saying your liver is fine and can handle it.
5.) If you run clen without cycling it (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) then you need to run benadryl every 3rd week for 7 days at 50mg a day... take that at night preferably.
6.) you're just a tad too young but then again you're here for advice you have already told yourself you will take vs. advice you can take with an open mind.

I think you are here and going to do ALL as planned and just want approval correct? That's how it seems people are now a days and it makes me sick.

Good luck!

[T-MOS]

you got plenty of advice already, but since it doesn't follow what you want to do, I am sure you will be like all the other hard headed YOUNG KIDS and not listen

TEST IS TEST !!!! it all works the same...its the ESTERS that can cause different effects
so now instead of having ONE ester doing ONE thing in your body, you want to run 5 , not smart !! the main goal with using steroids is to keep your blood levels STABLE not roller coasting all over the place, the more ESTERS, the harder it is to keep blood levels stable

Research into Clen and what you need, I didn't mention the compound because you are too old for me to just hand feed you, I won't change your diaper either.....lolol and I wanted to see just what work you would do to do things right...and you showed me...

Sounds like you are determined to do things YOUR WAY, and that is where I stop and step out!!

GOOD LUCK

[kavva1987]

Cheers for the advise guys...
well apreciated...
And no im not determend to do things my way becouse i admit i dont know much about roids yet...
thats wy i came here in the first place guys
---- IF U CANT SWIM DONT JUMP IN THE OCEAN WITHOUT A LIFE VEST---

[kavva1987]

LIFE JACKET my bad..

[kavva1987]

Plus T-MOS i value ur input but Never compare a person by their age or their looks cos i might be 21 but i still run my own buisness from 18 and as far as i know most kids at that age still hand from their DADDYS BALLS!!!

[tripmachine]

So are you going to keep the cycle as planned or what is your new cycle looking like? Or are you going to do what would be the smartest thing to do and check out the diet forum and hold off on a cycle for about 2 more years at least? The diet forum changed my life just last year actually.....I am well aware of how food is crazier than any drug out there now. If you can perfect the science of nutrition you will be way better off than the average person in many regards

[CHUCKYthentic]

drop the sus just run test e
drop the deca , you arent running enough for long enough
use the dbol for the first 4-5 weeks ONLY
DROP THE HGH AND IGF FOR SURE
take the hcg out of you pct and run it up to pct, not during

[T-MOS]

Plus T-MOS i value ur input but Never compare a person by their age or their looks cos i might be 21 but i still run my own buisness from 18 and as far as i know most kids at that age still hand from their DADDYS BALLS!!!

Not comparing you by anything except what you are showing in this thread and it is typical of a young person your age.

I have over 10 years of cycle experience, am 44, didn't cycle til I was 34-35, am 5'11 and 240 lbs with about 15% bf...

I have run 6-8 cycles, and NEVER have I needed to use half as many compounds to grow as you are proposing !!! PERIOD !!!

What you don't get here is that it is NOT the compounds that make you grow, and MORE is definetly NOT better when using steroids

your DIET is 89% of your gains !! then training, then rest, THEN the steroids will help

Steroids do NOT make the man !!!

you could gain 20-30 lbs on a test only diet IF you knew how to eat properly, train heavy, and SLEEP !!!


Congrats on being 21 and running your own business !!!

[kavva1987]

i know i might be a bit too young but that wont pout me of im gona be a heardhead on that one for shour but as the cycle goes il go for

test e 500mg week 12 week
deca 200mg week 8 week
Eq 500mg week / 15week
D-Bol 40mg ED for 4 week
Arimidem 0.25mg ed
milkthistle 150 mg ed
and Clen the same way as before with the benadril every 3week for 7 day
HCG at start midle and at the end for PCT with Nolva and Clomid

and il think about droping the HGH what about the IGF is that ok for me

[D7M]

did you read what T-Mos just wrote?

seriously, just take the test e...you really won't need anything else, trust us.

[T-MOS]

you are 6'2" and ONLY 195 lbs!! that right there tells me your diet is under par for what you want to gain

you could EASILY get to your natural potential of about 215-220 NATURALLY if you would change your eating habits

[kavva1987]

T-MOS tanks for the advise about the dieting will look in too that for sure not too keen about the sleep tho ..!!!! NO time

[T-MOS]

i know i might be a bit too young but that wont pout me of im gona be a heardhead on that one for shour but as the cycle goes il go for

test e 500mg week 12 week
deca 200mg week 8 week
Eq 500mg week / 15week
D-Bol 40mg ED for 4 week
Arimidem 0.25mg ed
milkthistle 150 mg ed
and Clen the same way as before with the benadril every 3week for 7 day
HCG at start midle and at the end for PCT with Nolva and Clomid

and il think about droping the HGH what about the IGF is that ok for me

See, no need for me to lump you in with all the other hard headed KIDS that don't listen, YOU DID IT YOUR SELF WITH THAT ONE STATEMENT ALONE !!!

good luck !! BYE BYE!! I AM off to help someone who cares about their health !!

sad thing is this KID will be back on here wondering why he gained 20lbs only and then lost it all after his cycle !!!! and then blame the gear !!

This is why steroids get a bad name !! I hope you don't run your business as carelessly and reckless as you run your health !!

PEACE !!

[T-MOS]

T-MOS tanks for the advise about the dieting will look in too that for sure not too keen about the sleep tho ..!!!! NO time

Well KID, you dont' grow in the gym , you grow in your sleep....but you do whatever makes you think you need to do

[kavva1987]

i was writing and didnt see ur statement that one was going for
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So are you going to keep the cycle as planned or what is your new cycle looking like? Or are you going to do what would be the smartest thing to do and check out the diet forum and hold off on a cycle for about 2 more years at least? The diet forum changed my life just last year actually.....I am well aware of how food is crazier than any drug out there now. If you can perfect the science of nutrition you will be way better off than the average person in many regards
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[T-MOS]

did you read what T-Mos just wrote?

seriously, just take the test e...you really won't need anything else, trust us.

Trust US??? Why on earth would he trust a bunch of guys that have spent most of their lives working out, dieting, and using steroids wisely, making and KEEPING great gains and staying healthy.....and why would he trust guys that DONATE their time and knowledge for FREE to help kids like him do things right and smart???????

come on now, he knows much more than we will ever know!!!

[D7M]

[kavva1987]

T-MOS ive already said bfor that im not trying to play smart here its out of my leage

Il look into it further plus i will get a good diet going as u said

[T-MOS]

T-MOS ive already said bfor that im not trying to play smart here its out of my leage

Il look into it further plus i will get a good diet going as u said

you say that, but then after all the advice given, you STILL post up a whacked out cycle..

Why on earth would you put your body through all that when you don't need to??

You are NOT an IFBB pro bodybuilder, and even they are smarter than what you are proposing.

Why is it so hard to get through you head that even though you are TOO young, if you are gonna do steroids , you dont' need to do that much???

why can't you get that part alone???

Two compounds are all you really need to make a good cylce!!!

[kavva1987]

sorry for that had to dash offcfor a bit!!!

so should i just do test e at 500mg a week
and d-bol 40mg ed for 4 week
with hcg , arimidex and my PCT ?

[kavva1987]

does that sound OK

[kavva1987]

run the test for 12 week..!!!

[T-MOS]

sorry for that had to dash offcfor a bit!!!

so should i just do test e at 500mg a week
and d-bol 40mg ed for 4 week
with hcg , arimidex and my PCT ?

thats the smartest thing you have said in this whole thread !!!

12 weeks is fine to run the test

[kavva1987]

I have to admit u guys buchered me on here but i gues every next day u get smarter than the prevews one!!!

--- now hoo the heck is gona buy the rest of my gear-----:-(
I gues i have to find a PRO .. LOL

[kavva1987]

anyway thanks for the help guys and il be back for shure if i get stuck anytime again