6 Months to Change My Life!!!

[yesitsreallyjosh]

I REALLY NEED your help. I now have six months to change my life.

Stats:

24 years old
6'3"
195 14% BF

I need a 10 week bulking cycle, something that will add on sustainable lean mass with as minimal fat gain as possible (i assume will have more to do with diet here), because after 10 weeks i will have exactly 14 weeks to cut down to 5-7 percent BF.

These are the legit gear i have access to

test cyp,enan,prop
sustanon
deca
d-bol
anadrol tabs
Tren
Equi
Mast
Primo


I need the best cycle i can do to bulk up for 10 weeks, but something that has to be as SUSTAINABLE as possible long-term since i will be cutting for 14 weeks after to get down to 5-6.5% and staying there. Once i get close to cutting i'll get on here to ask for help with that.

I can keep my diet and training as strict as possible, you have no idea my discipline. As i stated in previous posts, the reason i deteriorated to this was due to a lengthy missionary trip with no working out and terrible food!

Anyway, any idea on how many cals I should be consuming during the bulk, as well as amount of carbs/protein? I hear so many different theories, maybe my body type and you guys experience can help me settle on something.


GOD BLESS everybody, especially those who take the time to help me. PLEASE throw in your 2 cents it would be far more appreciated than you will ever know.

[yesitsreallyjosh]

btw this is not a first cycle, i've run a deca /test e cycle years ago as a first cycle and more recently a test prop/mast/winny cycle while cutting 2 years ago.

[PT]

why do you only have 6 months?

[D7M]

you'll get the same advice as last time, bro

DESPERATELY need help, 10-12 weeks to change my life!!

[jamyjamjr]

sooo, now it's 6 months huh?????

[jamyjamjr]

you've already been given a wealth of knowledge... why would you start another thread and waste our time???

[FireGuy]

Well...that thread he only had 12 weeks to change his life, looks like he got a 3 month extension.

[BIG_TRUCK]

Stop being lazy.

Go change your life now.

Go to the gym and fix your diet.

You should be able to get to 230lbs naturally.

Again, stop being lazy.

[jamyjamjr]

^^ i like this

[yesitsreallyjosh]

well the reason i started another thread was the timeframe has changed. believe me when i say it's exactly six months, the three month thing was impossible and i just let it go because it just wasn't enough time, but i have that same opportunity this late september.

It is a private audition for a stage play in new york that requires me to have my shirt off. My agent was able to get me an audition for the winter season after i told him I wouldn't be able to make the one in june.


i know i got a wealth of knowledge but that was based more on cutting, this is based more on bulking+cutting.

[T-MOS]

why the need for TWO threads on the SAME thing?????

DESPERATELY need help, 10-12 weeks to change my life!!

[yesitsreallyjosh]

look i apologize for taking up everybodys time.

you can make fun of me all you want but i'm just asking for help.


please disregard everything i said in the last thread i'm just asking for you to share your knowledge one more time, you won't see any more posts from me after this one thread, other than help with a cutting cycle once i finish bulking.

[T-MOS]

gee, all those compounds you have access to and NOT ONE PCT COMPOUND....tsk tsk

[T-MOS]

body sculpting is a MARATHON not a sprint

you can't be in such a rush and do things sloppy

in the diet section, NARK has a great advice thread and helps people with diets FOR FREE...

have you ever run PCT with your previous cycles? Do you know what that is?

That is how you will maintain your gains

[jamyjamjr]

yup.... lets make sure you can set everything up correctly and you have a pct on hand before cycle..

the compounds you have access to should be able to help you reach your goal, but your armchair bodybuilding... this is a lifestyle

[yesitsreallyjosh]

yes i do know what post cycle therapy is and i know i have access to clomid, hcg and possibly nolva. sorry forgot to throw that in.

[yesitsreallyjosh]

thank you for your words t-mos and jamyjam.

i promise you i won't be posting more threads like this and it means alot more to me than you realize you guys helping me out. i just need help with this bulking half of the six month cycle. when the time comes getting closer to cutting ill be back to ask for help with that but that's it! no more stupid threads i promise

[FireGuy]

Does your agent know what 5% bodyfat looks like? Unless your role is that of a competitive bodybuilder on contest day it seems quite excessive to me.

[Noles12]

In 6 months you should be able to gean lean mass easy natural. I trained natural to get to 6'3 225 at 12% before i even cycled. You are below 200 and 14% bf so i feel like you have not trained for very long

[yesitsreallyjosh]

well i suppose about 7 percent BF then is more what i'm looking for. isn't that what a model type is usually at? i had always assumed it was 5.

[jamyjamjr]

^^i know this goes against the advice we usually give out.. we're all about going natural to your limit.. but this guys situation is diff.. it's for the entertainment industry, which can be harsh if you dont look/act the part....

have you had your diet and routine critiqued by any of our experts yet??? if not, let's start there..

once we've got that down, so you know how to go about things, we'll start talking compounds

[yesitsreallyjosh]

In 6 months you should be able to gean lean mass easy natural. I trained natural to get to 6'3 225 at 12% before i even cycled. You are below 200 and 14% bf so i feel like you have not trained for very long

i was on a missionary trip to africa from may-december of 08 and my body deteriorated. our diet was heavy in fruit and starchy simple carbs. i wasn't able to train either.

needless to say i won't be doing that anymore, i eat as clean as you can imagine and i don't ever plan to stop training in my life due to my profession.


so any help i can get with the bulking half of the cycle would be more appreciated than you have any idea!

[FireGuy]

Well I am sitting about 6% in my avi if that helps you any.

[jamyjamjr]

anybody at 5% risks horrible health risks.. imo anything under 8% is rediculous

[yesitsreallyjosh]

well i suppose 7-9 is more where i want to be haha.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/m...male_model.jpg

male-model level. my lowest was 9 and i was almost there but i guess i never realized how much each percentage after that is really a drastic change

[FireGuy]

anybody at 5% risks horrible health risks.. imo anything under 8% is rediculous

Please explain? Understand most bodybuilders in the 5% range are only there for a few weeks at a time at best.

[jamyjamjr]

okay... sooo about that diet/training routine

[yesitsreallyjosh]

my diet is ridiculously clean.

whole wheat oatmeal, brown rice, whole wheat bread.


all i eat is grilled chicken and soy patties.

lots of whey, casein. e.t.c.



plenty of supps (flax, EFAs, multis, resveratrol, fish oils, and now glutamine and creatine e.t.c.)

i want to bulk clean not just because i enjoy it, but because i feel better and i assume it will help me minimize fat gain

[yesitsreallyjosh]

i can train as often as possible.

right now i do 6 days a week, no cardio since i'm bulking

[jamyjamjr]

Please explain? Understand most bodybuilders in the 5% range are only there for a few weeks at a time at best.

it's diff for a body builder who has to compete.... they have to go to that extreme to be competitive.. but ask any doc.. they'll tell u it's unhealthy when you dont have enough fat on your body... this has been common knowledge for me.. athleties shouldn't drop below 7-8%.. i know you compete, so i understand why yours would be so low

[jamyjamjr]

i can train as often as possible.

right now i do 6 days a week, no cardio since i'm bulking

6 days a week is over training.... take the time and post up your EXACT diet and your EXACT training routine... all the gear in the world dont mean squat if you dont have these two things down... you'll be wasting your time

[FireGuy]

Agreed, I wouldnt want to try and sustain 5% bodyfat for an extended period of time.

[yesitsreallyjosh]

i bulked up naturally from 171 (the ridiculous level i was at when i came back from africa) to 206 in 3 months with a 5 percent BF gain. i started cutting and got down to 195 in 11 days with a 1.5 percent BF drop but i realize i really need to add alot more lean mass. a good 15 lbs or so before i start cutting.

[T-MOS]

thank you for your words t-mos and jamyjam.

i promise you i won't be posting more threads like this and it means alot more to me than you realize you guys helping me out. i just need help with this bulking half of the six month cycle. when the time comes getting closer to cutting ill be back to ask for help with that but that's it! no more stupid threads i promise

you can start threads as much as you need to. Its just that you come on here with this EMERGENCY, and act like its life and death if you dont' get the answers you want. WHEN this isn't a drive thru !!

you can bulk without steroids by just changing you diet

start eating good quality solid meals every 2 hours if you want to bulk.

no fast foods, quality proteins, good carbs, and good fats

IF you want to, you can do a test/deca cycle, but I would go 10 weeks on the deca and 12 on the test

your gains are 90% dependant on your DIET and your TRAINING!!! so that is the area you need to correct first. the steroids are just an aid !!

[jamyjamjr]

^^ sounds like a good start

[T-MOS]

oH, and IF you get this part, we all expect FRONT ROW TICKETS to see the show !!!.....lolol

[yesitsreallyjosh]

somewhere around 3500 cals, 400 g of carbs, 250-275 g of protein a day when i was bulking. i wasn't monitoring it with fit-day.com like i am now and i plan on doing while on gear to maximize gains and minimize fat gains.


7 meals a day, majority of complex carbs in meals 1-5. if u want i can REALLY go into detail, but i want to change my diet up a little while on gear. i just need an idea of how many cals and carbs/protein to have while bulking on this gear, i know what to eat and when to eat it (more carbs earlier, also pre and post workout)


train each bodypart aa little less than once a week while bulking


day1 -chest tris
day2 - back bis
day3 - rest
day4 - shoulders traps forearms (an area of focus my brother has me working on)
day5 - legs
day6 - rest
repeat

[yesitsreallyjosh]

i promise u when this is said and done i will post pics and i will personally PM the guys who are helping me out some online information about me when its all said and done and i swear to GOD YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WAS NECCESSARY!

[yesitsreallyjosh]

i know how to eat and train, i just need help with number crunching with both.


so a test/deca cycle. how often and what do i do for pct? do i take anti-e during the cycle and if so when?

[T-MOS]

i know how to eat and train, i just need help with number crunching with both.


so a test/deca cycle. how often and what do i do for pct? do i take anti-e during the cycle and if so when?

Weeks 1-12 Test E or Test Cyp @ 500 mgs/week shot 250mgs Monday morning, and 250 mgs shot thurs night

weeks 1-10 Deca @ 400 mgs/week shot WITH the test in same syringe, 200 mgs on monday 200 on thursday

I would get arimidex on hand incase of too much water retention or signs of gyno. use at .25mgs EOD If needed

PCT either starts 14 days after last Test E shot or
starts 18 days after last Test Cyp shot

for PCT i like this thread and would follow it

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

If your diet and training are what you say they are you should have NO problem gaining with this

when you are in the gym lift to FAILURE
and remember you don't grow in the gym, you grow while you are at rest so SLEEP SLEEP SLEEP