6 Months to Change My Life!!!

[yesitsreallyjosh]

[QUOTE=T-MOS;4514227]Weeks 1-12 Test E or Test Cyp @ 500 mgs/week shot 250mgs Monday morning, and 250 mgs shot thurs night

weeks 1-10 Deca @ 400 mgs/week shot WITH the test in same syringe, 200 mgs on monday 200 on thursday

for PCT i like this thread and would follow it

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

oh God bless you thank you so much for your help. a few questions.


would you suggest, since i will be cutting immediately after, test e or test cyp? or is it a matter of preference?

i understand lifting to failure, but my brother has me on low reps heavy weights with 6-8 rep failure.

sample routine monday-
4 exercises chest
3 sets each 6-8 reps
2 exercises tris
3 sets each 6-8 reps
all 6-8 rep failure range. should i change this up since i'll be on gear?

also, how many cals/carbs and protein should i shoot for for my body type? how many grams of EFAs should i be taking a day also?

THANK YOU!!!!

[T-MOS]

ok, lets take a second here to clarify some things.

you say you are going to cut after this, do you realize you need enough time off of steroids to allow your body and blood levels to get back to homeostasis.

which means after this 12 weeks cycle and 4-6 weeks of PCT, you need to wait at least 16 weeks before you start another steroid cycle

is that going to still give you enough time for your goals?

you can cut naturally

[T-MOS]

For more specific diet numbers, you are best to ask in the diet section like suggested and ask NARK or one of the diet guru's as I really don't have the time to figure out all your macros for you.

that is something that can take some time to figure out exact amounts of p/c/f that you need daily and usualy costs you money to have someone detail it like that for you , so be nice to Nark,cause he offers that for FREE !!!

here is his free thread with Nova

Free Diet advice by Narkissos & Novastepp: Intro to Performance Nutrition 101

[yesitsreallyjosh]

yeah i figure i can cut naturally. i do plan on using clen though for its muscle sparing effects.

i'm sure i can drop from a good 16 percent bf to 7-8 naturally in a matter of 12 weeks with a super strict diet don't u think?

[yesitsreallyjosh]

should i be implementing cardio at all in my routine t-mos?

[T-MOS]

should i be implementing cardio at all in my routine t-mos?

I wouldnt worry to much about cardio while you are bulking, but YES definetly hit cardio hard while you are cutting.

Yes clen is fine for using after the cycle and during your cutting.

its hard to give you results to expect without being there 24/7 to see what you are doing and eating.

check the thread I gave you for diet.

if you are as dedicated to this as you seem, then you should be fine,

Hope you get the role !!!

[yesitsreallyjosh]

thanks so much T-Mos.

two last questions.

1 - test e or test c? which do u think i should go?

2 - do u think i can shred my bf to 8 percent from 16 or so in 12-14 weeks with clen and super strict dieting/cardio?


man thank you so much T-Mos i promise you i'm gonna show you later on exactly what this was all for.

[yesitsreallyjosh]

i would say 8 percent is about the level of a regular male model, right?

[D7M]

bro, if you're at 16% bf you best be doing cardio while "bulking", if you wanna get down to 8% without any drugs.

[T-MOS]

thanks so much T-Mos.

two last questions.

1 - test e or test c? which do u think i should go?

2 - do u think i can shred my bf to 8 percent from 16 or so in 12-14 weeks with clen and super strict dieting/cardio?


man thank you so much T-Mos i promise you i'm gonna show you later on exactly what this was all for.

1- whichever test you can get and trust. they are identical in most every way. some like one or the other, if you have used one before and liked it, then go with that. I have only used test Enanthate and like it just fine. your gains will be the same with either. Test is Test its just the ester that is different and some seem to prefer one over the other so its a personal experience thing

2- YES, I was natural when I did bodybuilding competitions, and would cut to 3% bodyfat in 12 weeks. but then again, i was extremely strict with what I was doing and documented every calorie I took in.

Can it be done YES , can YOU do it, well that will be totally up to YOU !!!

[yesitsreallyjosh]

i figure ill be at about 16 bf once i finish bulking, i'm about 14 now.

how often derek? once, twice a week? 30-45 min a day?

[Mammon]

i do cardio while bulking anyway.. just adjust diet accordingly

[T-MOS]

bro, if you're at 16% bf you best be doing cardio while "bulking", if you wanna get down to 8% without any drugs.

eh yes and no..... when I did a dirty bulk, I went from 210 to 260 and gained a hell of a lot of strength, but bodyfat was a bit high. and didn't do any cardio. He can still add cardio during his bulk if he wants, but I wouldn't go crazy with it

as long as he is eating clean a little bit of extra fat when bulking is ok.

he should be fine AS LONG as he keeps to the plan.

[D7M]

i figure ill be at about 16 bf once i finish bulking, i'm about 14 now.

how often derek? once, twice a week? 30-45 min a day?

many, many factors to consider here.

you will have to see how *your* body reacts each week and adjust accordingly.

why make it harder to cut all that fat off when you get done bulking, when you can just stay lean and continue to grow while on cycle?

i do cardio while bulking anyway.. just adjust diet accordingly

yep. as do I.

I gave up on that stupid "dirty bulking" idea years ago.

[T-MOS]

yep. as do I.

I gave up on that stupid "dirty bulking" idea years ago.

LOL hey now !!! it worked great for me .....lolol

[D7M]

LOL hey now !!! it worked great for me .....lolol

lol

that posted before I saw your post...no offense, bro.

yah, so it's just a difference in approach.

I'd rather stay lean and put on say 15 solid lbs w/ a short burst cycle, then put on ~30lbs and then have to cut and diet my ass off to loose 15lbs of fat.

but, like I said, both work, just different approaches.

[T-MOS]

lol

that posted before I saw your post...no offense, bro.

yah, so it's just a difference in approach.

I'd rather stay lean and put on say 15 solid lbs w/ a short burst cycle, then put on ~30lbs and then have to cut and diet my ass off to loose 15lbs of fat.

but, like I said, both work, just different approaches.

I agree, and after thinking about his time frame, I would probably have to reconsider my cardio statement and have him still do some cardio and certainly didn't mean that he should "dirty bulk"

cardio 3 times a week for 30-45 minutes should be fine

eat clean but eat enough to grow with and as stated monitor yourself each week and make adjustments as needed.

we can give you ALL the answers, but its YOUR body and only you will be seeing what is happening with it

[yesitsreallyjosh]

man i really do not understand that PCT thread. i mean, i have a basic knowledge of pct but thats some advanced shit.

do i really need to be taking hcg during my cycle? i can't just take clomid/nolva near the end and once the cycle is done?

sorry if i sound stupid but man that's really confusing. i consider myself a smart guy but i'm trying to wrap my head around all that

[T-MOS]

man i really do not understand that PCT thread. i mean, i have a basic knowledge of pct but thats some advanced shit.

do i really need to be taking hcg during my cycle? i can't just take clomid/nolva near the end and once the cycle is done?

sorry if i sound stupid but man that's really confusing. i consider myself a smart guy but i'm trying to wrap my head around all that

YES, you are fine with just clomid and nolva. but you don't start taking it until 14 or 18 days after your last test injection depending on which test you go with as previously stated.

Make SURE you have ALL PCT compounds on hand BEFORE ever starting your cylce
and I would still have an AI on hand like arimidex for use during the cycle in case you need it

[yesitsreallyjosh]

clomid AND nolva T-Mos or can just one suffice? i know i can get both. for 5 weeks after just like he says?

also, will definetely keep arimidex on hand. thank you!

[BIG_TRUCK]

Someone as skinny as you taking steroids is like someone putting racing tires on a toyota corolla....... Just stupid.

[T-MOS]

clomid AND nolva T-Mos or can just one suffice? i know i can get both. for 5 weeks after just like he says?

also, will definetely keep arimidex on hand. thank you!

yes both, they do different things.

[jamyjamjr]

^^^^^ that's platnum right there...

[Hazard]

Someone as skinny as you taking steroids is like someone putting racing tires on a toyota corolla....... Just stupid.

thats just ignorant...... come on man...... if you have nothing constructive to say..... don't say it at all.....

~Haz~

[BIG_TRUCK]

thats just ignorant...... come on man...... if you have nothing constructive to say..... don't say it at all.....

~Haz~

I sound ''ignorant'' .... Haha, are you high?

Ok, I'll push aas usage on an obvious beginner who wants an easy short cut instead of a little work to get to 205lbs at 6 foot 3...... Hazard, your a joke.

[Hazard]

I sound ''ignorant'' .... Haha, are you high?

Ok, I'll push aas usage on an obvious beginner who wants an easy short cut instead of a little work to get to 205lbs at 6 foot 3...... Hazard, your a joke.

LMAO alrite man.... listen..... there are ways to get your point across without trying to embarrass someone..... theres no need to make your retarded "toyota carolla" comment.

secondly..... i'm a male model myself and i FULLY understand the pressure that this kind of industry can put on you. Was he looking to get on a cycle and take a "short cut" before he found out about his audition? NO...... he was aked to look a certain way for an audition. HE MAY NOT GET THE PART IF HE DOESN'T....... it sucks but it's true.

Lastly..... don't insinuate that i'm pushing aas on him..... i don't push it on anyone. He has been given advice from more people here than me...... are you saying anyone else who's helping him is "pushing" aas on him?

Take your childish attitude elsewhere.....

~Haz~ <------ joke

[BIG_TRUCK]

LMAO alrite man.... listen..... there are ways to get your point across without trying to embarrass someone..... theres no need to make your retarded "toyota carolla" comment.

secondly..... i'm a male model myself and i FULLY understand the pressure that this kind of industry can put on you. Was he looking to get on a cycle and take a "short cut" before he found out about his audition? NO...... he was aked to look a certain way for an audition. HE MAY NOT GET THE PART IF HE DOESN'T....... it sucks but it's true.

Lastly..... don't insinuate that i'm pushing aas on him..... i don't push it on anyone. He has been given advice from more people here than me...... are you saying anyone else who's helping him is "pushing" aas on him?

Take your childish attitude elsewhere.....

~Haz~ <------ joke

LoL male models taking steroids . THATS the joke.

I know an olympic lifter from years ago that was top 5 in the world who never touched aas. Competed 300lbs+ @ 6'1''. Freak genetics for sure. But come on.... male modeling , he would shit himself if he read that was both of your reasons for using hormones.

I'm not responding anymore to this thread. If you want to take steroids to get to 200lbs at 6'3'' then go for it.

[Phate]

LoL male models taking steroids . THATS the joke.

I know an olympic lifter from years ago that was top 5 in the world who never touched aas. Competed 300lbs+ @ 6'1''. Freak genetics for sure. But come on.... male modeling , he would shit himself if he read that was both of your reasons for using hormones.

I'm not responding anymore to this thread. If you want to take steroids to get to 200lbs at 6'3'' then go for it.

thank the lord

[Hazard]

he would shit himself if he read that was both of your reasons for using hormones.

Oh im sorry...... did i give you the impression that i only take steroids to model? I don't ever recall saying that......

Fact is..... I havn't cycled in 3 years. I started young..... didn't know any better. I've been modeling since i was 19 years old - lifting since highschool. Modeling had nothing to do with my taking steroids. My love for bodybuilding did. I got up to 221lbs at 12% bf by the age of 21 and then dropped to 187lbs for an MMA fight. I have not cycled since...... and have naturally gotten back up to 227lbs.....

think before you talk..... and thank-you for not bothering to check this thread anymore.

~Haz~

[Narkissos]

anybody at 5% risks horrible health risks..

no comment...

[Narkissos]

LoL male models taking steroids. THATS the joke.

A male model making 5k for 10 minutes of shooting would probably think that a bodybuilder (who doesn't make shit from competing) using steroids is a joke.

Think about that.

[BIG_TRUCK]

A male model making 5k for 10 minutes of shooting would probably think that a bodybuilder (who doesn't make shit from competing) using steroids is a joke.

Think about that.

Haha I like your point.

5k for 10 minutes would be nice.

[Narkissos]

Haha I like your point.

5k for 10 minutes would be nice.

Yea.

About half of my current clients are models.

We sent a couple up to the USA to do some shoots, and that's how they were paid.

It was crazy.

They told me this isn't even what a high-end model makes.

High-end models make much more.

My guys aren't on gear... but hell, i wouldn't tell 'em not to do it is they thought it was worth an extra couple thousand per shoot lol.

[Satva1100]

Someone as skinny as you taking steroids is like someone putting racing tires on a toyota corolla....... Just stupid.

hahahahaha thats fcuking awesome!!

[Satva1100]

like i told you on another site -if you wanna look like that fag in the picture dont lift any weights anymore -smoke crack everyday for a month -stop eating