D-Bol Cycle

**scarface22** · 03-22-2009, 05:19 PM

yeah I'll start aiming at 3500-4000 with over 250 grams of protein
now only thing im wondering is, would it be okay to take clen for cutting after I bulk up
or will clen disturb my hormonal growth as well

**fresh31** · 03-22-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by scarface22

I try to eat every hour and a half and drink lots of water
and I take at least one protein shake try to take two during the day
I try to get 3000 calories/day, I'm going to buy a low sugar weight gainer shake
The other two times I hit a plateau i increased workout intensity and kept gaining but this time its my diet lol

could be either but i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on your work out because most people don't understand how important their diets are. Try to up your caloric intake...

**scarface22** · 03-22-2009, 05:23 PM

yeah ill start aiming at 3500+ or 250+ protein
I'm wondering is i should take clen after bulking
or will that effect my hormonal growth as well

**scarface22** · 03-22-2009, 05:24 PM

oops sorry for the double post

**fresh31** · 03-22-2009, 05:28 PM

you should try bulking up cleanly, up your cals but eat the right foods, and work out and sleep a lot, that's one thing I neglected when I first started lifting and I know a bunch of guys who have as well, remember you grow while you sleep.

**scarface22** · 03-22-2009, 05:30 PM

I always get enough sleep maybe one day in a week i will get 6 or 7 hour sleep rest of the days is always around 9 hours of sleep. I will bulk up cleanly but for the cutting I want to take clenbuterol if that's okay at my age.

**fresh31** · 03-22-2009, 05:34 PM

thats good that you get enough sleep, I haven't personally used clen but from what I've read you should be alright.

**scarface22** · 03-22-2009, 05:35 PM

I also heard clen slows down protein synthesis so muscle building is easier

**Hazard** · 03-22-2009, 05:41 PM

clen is said to be "anti-catabolic" - i've used it in high doses before..... didn't like it much myself. Not sure how well clen works for this purpose.....

~Haz~

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-22-2009, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by scarface22

I always get enough sleep maybe one day in a week i will get 6 or 7 hour sleep rest of the days is always around 9 hours of sleep. I will bulk up cleanly but for the cutting I want to take clenbuterol if that's okay at my age.

Clen has some side effects including enlargement of the heart and arteries and other side effects that are coming out more more with each medical report done on it.

It def. is a drug not to be taken lightly.

**scarface22** · 03-22-2009, 07:04 PM

The heart and arteries something I didn't know lol
I was thinking taking 2 weeks on 2 weeks of and then 2 weeks on and then stop for clen

**subaruwrx04** · 03-22-2009, 07:19 PM

Buddy take some creatine and some whey protein.. Your to young...

Your not ready for the Dark Side.. Obey One Canobie and the Force needs you back..

**scarface22** · 03-22-2009, 07:24 PM

but i don't like obey and the force

**subaruwrx04** · 03-22-2009, 07:36 PM

Trust me man.. Buddy of mine did the exact same thing in Highschool 17 years old. Yeah he got pretty big and stayed big. After a year he was small again. Now at age 26 he has Cirrhosis of the Liver. I have the link below for you to tell you all about it. Now he's fat as hell because of this liver problem.. Also want to put this right here for you.. He dont drink and never has. This was caused by a his young age and using Dbol .. Not saying any other steroid will not do this cause it will.

But read this closely.....

Cirrhosis is the twelfth leading cause of death by disease, accounting for 27,000 deaths each year.

http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddise...ubs/cirrhosis/

**Darksyde** · 03-22-2009, 08:32 PM

**briancb1** · 03-23-2009, 01:46 PM

darksyde is right. Doing a dbol only cycle would be like being the third guy in the picture above.

but in all seriousness. Don't expect to keep much. After this first novice cycle you will probably understand what you need to do next time (if that comes around) to make/keep better gains. Nothing beats first hand experience, although listening to a lot of people on here would help.

But take it with a grain of salt, people in general say one thing and do another. How many people step up to the plate and act like Dr.Phil when you ask them a question about relationships, yet have problems themselves?

You'll figure it out just make sure you use AI's and a proper PCT.

good luck and don't go overboard on the cals just yet, I doubt you need 4000 calories if you weigh just 150 something pounds. Thats one way to get fat quick.

**Immortal Soldier** · 03-23-2009, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by briancb1

darksyde is right. Doing a dbol only cycle would be like being the third guy in the picture above.

but in all seriousness. Don't expect to keep much. After this first novice cycle you will probably understand what you need to do next time (if that comes around) to make/keep better gains. Nothing beats first hand experience, although listening to a lot of people on here would help.

But take it with a grain of salt, people in general say one thing and do another. How many people step up to the plate and act like Dr.Phil when you ask them a question about relationships, yet have problems themselves?

You'll figure it out just make sure you use AI's and a proper PCT.

good luck and don't go overboard on the cals just yet, I doubt you need 4000 calories if you weigh just 150 something pounds. Thats one way to get fat quick.

If you are even hinting that veteran users here say "dont do dbol only cycles" and than secertly do it you are so wrong it isn't funny.

Nothing good comes out of dbol only cycles that would make it even close to worth it.

It's not like there is some conspiracy on here to keep people from not getting big, we don't recommend these cycles because they are not beneficial when compared to costs.

**Mammon** · 03-23-2009, 01:53 PM

oh shit... the jig is up... lol

**scarface22** · 03-23-2009, 04:26 PM

ok so basically don't do steroids and work on diet and training
once i've gained all i can with that then do injections and not oral
but when u look at d-bol online many people have had successful dbol only cycles
and gained over 25pounds and kept nearly half
now I'm not saying for my first novice dbol only cycle I expect to gain that much
i don't even know if i want to keep going on with d-bol its been a week and I might just stop taking it and go natural and get all i can out of it

**Dizz28** · 03-23-2009, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Darksyde

WtF? .....nevermind, I don't want to know

**LyricaBuzz** · 03-23-2009, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Pittbull78

Trust me man Dbol aint that toxic - esp if you keep the dosages reasonable. Since everybody's different you need to find out how your body takes to the stuff. Chances are you'll benefit from 50mgs a day. First cycles have the benefit of getting a little more out of less but I wouldn't push that principle and only take 25 or 30 mgs a day - you'll be disappointed with the results if you do. It unlikely you'll put on 30 lbs with just 25 mgs a day unless your a complete genetic freak! Oh - and don't drink on it for the love of god like some of these dip sh#@s do - thats where you'll run into problems.

is that you Justin Gooden you ***** ass little bitch