Confused Melanotan

**Norway2** · 03-28-2009, 11:39 AM

I'll receive 50mg of MT2 soon, however, I don't really know how to mix it with sterile aka bac water. I'm planning on starting out with 0.25mg. My needle goes up to 30 units. I've heard that 0.1ml = 1 unit. How do I mix MT2 with the sterile water?

Thanks.

**johnnybigguns** · 03-28-2009, 11:52 AM

Do a search there should be some good threads on it.
0.1ml is 10 units.

**Mammon** · 03-28-2009, 12:44 PM

add i 1ml bac water.. 10 on a slin pin will be 1mg..
you can do the math from there.. adding more bac water ect...

**Dizz28** · 03-28-2009, 01:22 PM

He said his needle only goes up to 30units though guys.... Mine go up to 40units but that still equals 1ml

if 30units on your pin = 1ml of fluid, then...

3units will equal 1mg
1unit will equal about .33mg ....

**Mammon** · 03-28-2009, 01:24 PM

ahhh your right... didnt even catch that.. makes a bit of difference.. lol

**Norway2** · 03-28-2009, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

He said his needle only goes up to 30units though guys.... Mine go up to 40units but that still equals 1ml

if 30units on your pin = 1ml of fluid, then...

But doesn't 0.1ml = 10 units how can what you're saying be correct then? I understand most of this stuff except for the mixing lol.

Thanks for helping though

Aren't there MT2 vidoes out there?

**daem** · 03-28-2009, 02:08 PM

It's much more simple than that.

Put in 50 units of bacteriostatic water and you'll get a concentration of 2mg / 10 units.

That means you'll pull out 1 unit for your desired dose.

It means nothing that your pin is 30 units...Just put in 50 units for the easiest conversion. It's really not rocket science.

**Norway2** · 03-28-2009, 03:20 PM

Still don't understand..

**KatsMeow** · 03-28-2009, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Norway2

I'll receive 50mg of MT2 soon, however, I don't really know how to mix it with sterile aka bac water. I'm planning on starting out with 0.25mg. My needle goes up to 30 units. I've heard that 0.1ml = 1 unit. How do I mix MT2 with the sterile water?

Thanks.

sterile water and bac water are not the same thing, you need bac. H2O

**Norway2** · 03-28-2009, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by KatsMeow

sterile water and bac water are not the same thing, you need bac. H2O

Why not sterile? This girl I know that has used it several times said that bac water = sterile water. She was probably wrong then (that's what I thought at first too). Damn, it will probably be hard to get bac water in Norway then.

**KatsMeow** · 03-28-2009, 03:57 PM

because bac water has enzymes in it that prevents the growth of bacteria and keeps the solution good for longer. you can use sterile water, I have before but it supposedly loses potency after 20days

**Dizz28** · 03-28-2009, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Norway2

Still don't understand..

Listen....

Slin pins have different amounts of measures (units) on them sometimes...

Draw up 1ml of bac water... draw up what you know for sure is 1ml and if it equals 30 of your slin pins "units" then 30 units equal 1ml... go by the reference I gave you above

not to confuse you but,...... My slin pins have 40 units marked on them but that still equals 1ml. Some have 100 "units" marked on the and still equal 1ml

**Norway2** · 03-29-2009, 12:59 PM

I'm gonna practise tomorrow mxing tomorrow with baking soda and water=P. That's probably better than messing up the real stuff (expensive). I'm not going to inject bakinga soda though hah

PT · 03-29-2009, 01:02 PM

there is no practise needed bro, you just put the water into the vial

**Norway2** · 03-29-2009, 01:24 PM

Yeah, but when I'm putting 30 units (?) into the MT2, how can I know what 0.25mg is? I'm going to inject 0.25mg the first day.

**Dizz28** · 03-29-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Norway2

Yeah, but when I'm putting 30 units (?) into the MT2, how can I know what 0.25mg is? I'm going to inject 0.25mg the first day.

Did you not read this? If you don't understand after this, just give it up lol. I don't think you can get any more simple then this.....

Originally Posted by Dizz28

He said his needle only goes up to 30units though guys.... Mine go up to 40units but that still equals 1ml

if 30units on your pin = 1ml of fluid, then...

3units will equal 1mg
1unit will equal about .33mg ....

**Mammon** · 03-29-2009, 02:58 PM

just put 1ml of freakin bac water into the vial... lol

**hellapimpin** · 03-29-2009, 05:05 PM

slowly as you read this thread...you just want to reach through the computer screen and slap him! :P

**rhinoman** · 03-29-2009, 06:23 PM

lmao. I was just thinking that before I read the last post.

**Anabolios** · 03-29-2009, 06:38 PM

Sorry for hijacking and I'm normally 100% against this but if you order from research companies do they ship with ice packs or something? or will it hold for a day or two in transit in warmer conditions? sorry again

**Dizz28** · 03-29-2009, 06:42 PM

Mine has always arrived on ice

**Norway2** · 03-30-2009, 01:53 AM

Aaight, this is what I'm planning on then:

1. Take 30IU (1ml) of bac water into the 10mg of MT2
2. From there I'll take 10IU (0.25mg MT2) into the body

**Dizz28** · 03-30-2009, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by Norway2

Aaight, this is what I'm planning on then:

1. Take 30IU (1ml) of bac water into the 10mg of MT2
2. From there I'll take 10IU (0.25mg MT2) into the body

Holy shit.....

This is the last time I'm posting in here, after this you can screw yourself up as much as you want for all I care. Social Darwinism, you just weren't ment to survive it looks like

10iu on you slin pins = 3.33mg

1iu = .33mg

**Norway2** · 03-30-2009, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

Holy shit.....

This is the last time I'm posting in here, after this you can screw yourself up as much as you want for all I care. Social Darwinism, you just weren't ment to survive it looks like

sure I'll die tomorrow, looking forward to it hah, but don't expect got get a funeral invitation..

Anyway, I've got myself some new syringes now, 1 10ml and 1 2,5ml.

**rhinoman** · 03-30-2009, 01:49 PM

this post is confusing the hell out of me. Its simple math. now you go buy different syringes? good luck to ya!

**Dizz28** · 03-30-2009, 02:54 PM

You're a troll....can't believe you suckered me into responding to this thread

**Mammon** · 03-30-2009, 04:21 PM

lmao... i hear ya...

**kuju** · 04-02-2009, 01:17 AM

Ouch!!! Hi all - this is my first post here, hopefully the first of many - but I just HAD to jump into this one (although i'm slightly scared of doing so....).

I struggle to see how someone couldn't get the REALLY SIMPLE advice that was offered on how to make up the MT2 solution....perhaps using crayons would have worked out better? (Obviously not the sharp ones though...)

Anyway - i'm a drug researcher with a primary interest in injecting drug use, especially anabolics and other such substances and felt I should add a couple of comments here, I hope that's ok. No axe to grind, very much of the opinion that what people do with their body is their own choice...I just like people to be properly informed before they make those choices

I also train and do a little bit of work with our local juicing community.

Anyway, enough life story......

Just two points:

1. Bacteriostatic water does not have enzymes in it, it contains a small quantity of benzyl alcohol which is intended to inhibit bacterial growth - but it won't stop it altogether. Its primarily a US thing, here in the UK it's supposed to be prescription only but in reality its actually very rare to find it. I would say its of limited utility....I can't actually say a lot about the study right now but suffice to say recent testing showed that internet sourced bac water was FAR from bacteria free. Its - in theory - better than sterile water for making up a multi dose vial but otherwise....meh.

2. I'm curious to know where people are getting their dosing regime from? The original papers from Dorr et al are all quite clear that the dosing for MT2 is 0.025mg/kg bodyweight - any more and the side effects are more pronounced. Can I ask why people are using fixed doses?