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    First cycle since starting HRT

    Currently I'm on 200mg Cyp a week for HRT. I am wanting to run my first cycle since start HRT. Planning a bulker of Cyp, Deca & Dbol . I'm a big advocate of lower doses, but not sure how low is too low. Here's what I'm planning.

    Week 1-12 Test Cyp @ 300-400 mg/week
    Week 1-12 Deca @ 125mg/week
    Week 1-4 Dbol @ 25mg a week

    I will also be taking Arimidex to keep estrogen sides down. Nolva on hand incase of any flare ups. Also, after week 12 I should go right back to my HRT dose, correct?

    Open to all opinions.

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    Wt: 180
    BF%: 8
    Ratio of 40/40/20 @ 4000 calories a day
    Every other day split work each muscle once per 8 days.
    20 minutes of walking cardio (4.0 mph) 4x a week.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Diamond View Post
    Currently I'm on 200mg Cyp a week for HRT. I am wanting to run my first cycle since start HRT. Planning a bulker of Cyp, Deca & Dbol . I'm a big advocate of lower doses, but not sure how low is too low. Here's what I'm planning.

    Week 1-12 Test Cyp @ 300-400 mg/week
    Week 1-12 Deca @ 125mg/week
    Week 1-4 Dbol @ 25mg a week

    I will also be taking Arimidex to keep estrogen sides down. Nolva on hand incase of any flare ups. Also, after week 12 I should go right back to my HRT dose, correct?

    Open to all opinions.

    Stats:
    Age: 27
    Ht: 5'9
    Wt: 180
    BF%: 8
    Ratio of 40/40/20 @ 4000 calories a day
    Every other day split work each muscle once per 8 days.
    20 minutes of walking cardio (4.0 mph) 4x a week.

    Thanks.
    Deca is way to low, I would run it at 200mg a week if you are looking for joint relief or if you are looking to make gains I would up it to at least 400 mg a week. now that you are on hrt you dont need a pct but I would tapper the test off in the last couple of weeks. JMO

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    I was thinking the same thing,the deca is to low,you really wont get anything from that.Do run the cyp at 400,your already cruising at 200.I cruise at 200 no pct i love it.My opinion no need to taper at the end,no offense prone2rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romo6 View Post
    I was thinking the same thing,the deca is to low,you really wont get anything from that.Do run the cyp at 400,your already cruising at 200.I cruise at 200 no pct i love it.My opinion no need to taper at the end,no offense prone2rage.
    he might of ment go back to 200 a week for the last week while deca is finishing so when its all out of him hes alrdy adjusted back to 200 cyp

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    Quote Originally Posted by wackod2 View Post
    he might of ment go back to 200 a week for the last week while deca is finishing so when its all out of him hes alrdy adjusted back to 200 cyp
    Yes,very true.

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    Thanks for all the responses. I figured the Deca was too low. I will run the Cyp at 400 and Dbol at 25/day (4 weeks). Question about the deca. I've always read that you want more test in a cycle than whatever nandrolone you use. True?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Diamond View Post
    Thanks for all the responses. I figured the Deca was too low. I will run the Cyp at 400 and Dbol at 25/day (4 weeks). Question about the deca. I've always read that you want more test in a cycle than whatever nandrolone you use. True?
    yes that is true. but I was also thinking your were going to use 400mg on top of your hrt. I would still up the deca to at least 200 for the joints benifits.
    Last edited by *RAGE*; 03-31-2009 at 09:34 AM.

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    Yeah, just 400 cyp total. My deca is dosed at 250mg/ml. I love the joint benefits of deca, but would rather get the mass qualities out of it. Maybe I'll do 250-300mg of deca a week? I don't know. I want to stay on the low end because I have plenty of time to saturate my receptors with higher doses in the future. However, I never want to waste a compounds benefits.

    I have 50mg tabs of dbol . I was planning on cutting them into 4s. Then taking 12.5mg 2x a day. I've always read to try to dose 3 to 4 times a day, but I don't think I can cut them any smaller.

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    No, you do not need more test than deca , that is parroted far too much. The deca can not supress the test that you inject, an hrt dose of test is all you would need. More test is fine but not necessary. There is also no reason to taper the test, the halflife does the tapering.

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    bump up the deca to at least 250 (try 375mg) for gains. 200 is a good hrt dose but not a good cycle dose. I use 200-240 deca for HRT to give you an idea. Good luck bro

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    You need to bump the Test and Decca a bit more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmit View Post
    bump up the deca to at least 250 (try 375mg) for gains. 200 is a good hrt dose but not a good cycle dose. I use 200-240 deca for HRT to give you an idea. Good luck bro
    Thanks for the input.

    I think I will run it at 400.

    So in it's final:

    1-12 Test Cyp 400/week (200mg bi-weekly injections)
    1-12 Deca 400/week (200mg bi-weekly injections)
    1-4 Dbol 25mg/day (12.5 mg 2x a day)
    Arimidex @ .5mg 3x a week

    I also run HCG @ 500iu 2x a week for HRT. Generally 5 weeks on and 5 weeks off.

    Nolva on hand for any flare ups.

    I know the doses seem low, but IMO I have plenty of time to up the doses in later cycles. I have responded VERY well to my HRT dose of 200mg Cyp a week, so I assume this will work great.

    Thanks for all the responses.

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    Looks great to me

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    me, id run the test a week or 2 past the deca ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammon View Post
    me, id run the test a week or 2 past the deca..
    If I weren't on 200mg of Test Cyp a week for HRT, then I would definitely run the test 2 weeks past the deca .

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