what is a good starting ph

[Greatztin]

I'm 20 years old, i been doing mma for 6 years, i am 178lbs i am currently on john berardi's sample diet from grapplers gym nutrtition, i want to gain a little bit of muscle, my strength gains are good, but losing fat and building muscle is hard, i feel like i've hit my plateau, i want to do one cycle tyhat will help me bust that plateau and help lose a little bit of body fat. Give me your suggestions.

I was suggested 11-oxo 6-8 weeks followed by 6-oxo for 4 weeks. I heard this was a good starting stack, good for strength and fat loss.

im not thinking on doing any other cycles, just to help boost my plateau and help lose some bf.

any reviews on stuff like 3-ad trifecta stack, herma/propadrol ? i dunno, post ur comments thoughts knownlodeged

[Immortal Soldier]

I'm 20 years old, i been doing mma for 6 years, i am 178lbs i am currently on john berardi's sample diet from grapplers gym nutrtition, i want to gain a little bit of muscle, my strength gains are good, but losing fat and building muscle is hard, i feel like i've hit my plateau, i want to do one cycle tyhat will help me bust that plateau and help lose a little bit of body fat. Give me your suggestions.

I was suggested 11-oxo 6-8 weeks followed by 6-oxo for 4 weeks. I heard this was a good starting stack, good for strength and fat loss.

im not thinking on doing any other cycles, just to help boost my plateau and help lose some bf.

any reviews on stuff like 3-ad trifecta stack, herma/propadrol ? i dunno, post ur comments thoughts knownlodeged

Wrong board, this is anabolic steroids . Supplement board will help you better.

With that being said, 11-oxo is more or anti-cortisone type fat loss drug than a bulking drug.

3-AD is a non-methyl drug and limited if any HPTA suppression and PCT is OTC, reviews are mixed.

Personally the best beginner Ph's is Bold 200 by Iforce (idk if it is still in production.

Other choices include H-Drol, Phera Phlex, and the infamous Superdrol (being the strongest and harshest) all are methyl's so liver support is recommended.

Personally for PCT I would run Nolva 20/20/20/20