2nd cycle and Tren

[illwillogical]

I have been thinking of what compounds I want to use on my 2nd cycle which I plan on starting at the end of May this year.

At first I was thinking Test E, Deca , with a Dbol kicker. Then I got to thinking. Why not do Prop, Tren A, with a Dbol kicker?

Most people on here say use Tren for advanced users but don't really state a reason. I know the sides can be harsh. I will give my stats, but they may be different when I start my cycle.

Age: 28
Weight: 198
Height: 5'9"
Bodyfat: 15%
Lifting experience: over 10 years
Cycle Experience: Test E 12 weeks@500mg per week, Dbol weeks 1-4 30mg
Goal for cycle: clean bulk

If I can handle the sides, my diet is in check, I have the discipline and dedication is right on, then why not incorporate Tren in my second cycle?

I would prefer experienced users to reply with their opinions. But I know there will be a few that will try to bump their post count lol.

[romo6]

I understand what your saying,you do seem prepared,and you can probably handle it.But you do know you could run another test cycle and probably get awesome gains.Its kinda like save the hard shit for when you dont respond as good as you use too.

[T-MOS]

you really don't need a dbol kick start to a test Prop cycle

Yes the reason to wait on tren is to see how your body handles other AAS firstand work your way up, BUT if you are gonna do tren , you have it right with going with Tren A

[Immortal Soldier]

Idk because the reasoning is similar to your first cycle, you still are going to grow since your body is still relatively "fresh" to steroids , so why throw the most powerful steroid into the mix when you can save that for later when its harder to gain muscle (as you progress in weight)?

It's up to you though...

[jimmyinkedup]

you really don't need a dbol kick start to a test Prop cycle

Yes the reason to wait on tren is to see how your body handles other AAS firstand work your way up, BUT if you are gonna do tren , you have it right with going with Tren A

every word right on the money IMO .....

[illwillogical]

Idk because the reasoning is similar to your first cycle, you still are going to grow since your body is still relatively "fresh" to steroids , so why throw the most powerful steroid into the mix when you can save that for later when its harder to gain muscle (as you progress in weight)?

It's up to you though...

This theory makes sense, but I have never seen anything to back it up. I believe if its harder to gain muscle, when you are getting to your genetic limit, there has to be a point that even with steroids that you will not grow anymore. I think once you get to that point, it don't matter what AAS you take, you just aren't going to get much growth If anyone has any links to any studies, I would like to read them.

[SuperLift]

This theory makes sense, but I have never seen anything to back it up. I believe if its harder to gain muscle, when you are getting to your genetic limit, there has to be a point that even with steroids that you will not grow anymore. I think once you get to that point, it don't matter what AAS you take, you just aren't going to get much growth If anyone has any links to any studies, I would like to read them.

steroids takes you past your genetic limit

[illwillogical]

steroids takes you past your genetic limit

Yeah, I know but there is a point where even steroids won't work anymore, not everyone can be 275 at 6% bodyfat.