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    Need help with my first cycle

    I am ready to start my first cycle. I am an ex-athlete trying to get lean muscle mass. I have one vial of test enth(250MG). I need to know if I should stack this with anything else. I am currently 6ft 235lbs and 15% BODY FAT. Also, how many times a week and dosage. Someone please help me!
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    how old are you?

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    Welcome to AR

    there are OTHER things you need to do a cycle correctly and safely, not just the steroids

    you need ancillaries to have on hand

    you need compounds to run AFTER the cylce to RESTORE your natural HPTA

    We can't give you much more help without knowing more about you

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    what are your goals for this cycle?
    what do you know about PCT?

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    I am 33 years old. My goals are to obtain mass and cut. I only want to do one cycle to give me a good boost. After that I am done or so I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    Welcome to AR

    there are OTHER things you need to do a cycle correctly and safely, not just the steroids

    you need ancillaries to have on hand

    you need compounds to run AFTER the cylce to RESTORE your natural HPTA

    We can't give you much more help without knowing more about you

    AGE
    what are your goals for this cycle?
    what do you know about PCT?
    answer the questions in bold please

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamon75 View Post
    I am 33 years old. My goals are to obtain mass and cut. I only want to do one cycle to give me a good boost. After that I am done or so I think.
    I would like that in writing please......lolol If I had a dollar for every post that said I am only doing ONE cycle.....lolol

    You will be back...once you step into the dark side, there is NO going back

    my first cycle was at 34 and I thought the same thing...just ONE ..that was about 10 years and 8 cycles ago............LOLOL

    well you don't really have enough test to do a decent cycle

    and you didn't answer my question about PCT

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    i want to add a little mass but be very toned and veiny. I do not know anything about PCT. Can you guys give me a start up cycle with what I have and also school me on other products that I will need before and after cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamon75 View Post
    i want to add a little mass but be very toned and veiny. I do not know anything about PCT. Can you guys give me a start up cycle with what I have and also school me on other products that I will need before and after cycle.
    here ya go

    TEST BEGINNER CYCLE INFO

    here, i'll lay out some stuff for you,
    first thing, you need to get your diet in check, here is some threads on cutting, lean bulking and pure bulking to give you some info, but you need to post your diet for critiqueing, your wasting your money otherwise

    Diet

    UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...
    UNoffical "How to Cut" thread and sample diet...
    Appetite For Construction
    http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/calories/calories.html

    only when you have your diet down should you think about cycling, a beginner cycle should look like this

    1-12 test e 500mg/week
    1-4 dbol 40mg/day ( this is used to kickstart the cycle and is optional)

    take your test injections 3.5 days apart, like monday morning and thursday evening

    split your dbol up throughout the day, this will keep your blood levels stable, which means less sides and more gains

    if you take the dbol, supplement with liv52 to help you liver cope with breaking down the dbol

    btw, here are the profiles on the AS you will be using so read them and get to know the stuff your putting in your body

    Test Enth
    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Testosterone Enanthate

    Dianabol
    Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)

    Next is your pct, which should begin two weeks after your last test injection and should be a phneedo's pct, whats that you ask? here it is

    Pheendo's PCT
    Pheedno's PCT

    while your at it read this one as well for future cycles

    Anthony Roberts PCT
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758


    Now for some other important stuff, you need to have some arimidex on hand in case you start getting water retention or gyno, so get some, in fact, read this thread 3x before you start your cycle as it will tell you....

    All You Need To Know About Gyno

    All you need to know about GYNO.

    that should get you read for your cycle, best of luck

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    NO, we do not hand feed here, this stuff is too dangerous and too important for you to just take our word without knowing anything for yourself, especially when its ALL right here for you to just do a little research

    If you can't dedicate to researching what you are about to stick into you body that is gonna change its chemistry possibly FOREVER, then you really shouldn't be using steroids in the first place

    There is a PCT section here. go to the main forum page and click on PCT, read ALL the stuck threads at the top of that forum then come back with a proposal for us to look at , THEN we will HELP you tweek it

    that way we know you will be OK during the cycle

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    damnnn Phate is feeling generous tonight

    you better THANK HIM !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-MOS View Post
    damnnn Phate is feeling generous tonight

    you better THANK HIM !!!
    Lol, trying to make up for my absence this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    Lol, trying to make up for my absence this week
    I'd say you more than made up for it right there bro !!!

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    Now I am a little confused about 1-12 test e 500mg/week. I am doing injections not oral. How many CC's would I take on monday and thursday on 10 ml vial at 250 mg to get to 500 mg. I guess 2ml would be 500 mg. Forgive me if I sould like a dumbass and have not done my homework. I appreciate all your expertise on this matter. This is why I am on here but I will follow with suggestions you gave me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamon75 View Post
    Now I am a little confused about 1-12 test e 500mg/week. I am doing injections not oral. How many CC's would I take on monday and thursday on 10 ml vial at 250 mg to get to 500 mg. I guess 2ml would be 500 mg. Forgive me if I sould like a dumbass and have not done my homework. I appreciate all your expertise on this matter. This is why I am on here but I will follow with suggestions you gave me.
    you are correct, your gear is dosed at 250mg/mL(btw, 1mL=1cc, they are the same thing), what that means is that every mL has 250mg of compound in it, so for a basic cycle you would inject 1mL monday and 1mL thursday for a total of 2mL and 500mg of test per week

    that being said, if you only have 10mL of test at that concentration, then you can only run it for 5 weeks before you run out

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    Should my cycle be no longer than 12 weeks? Also, the dbol should be taken every day for the first 4 weeks. What do you mean when you say change up the time when taking dbol. This should be my last question and it is off to research. THANKS AGAIN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamon75 View Post
    Should my cycle be no longer than 12 weeks? Also, the dbol should be taken every day for the first 4 weeks. What do you mean when you say change up the time when taking dbol. This should be my last question and it is off to research. THANKS AGAIN!
    a 10 or 12 week cycle is normally a good starter, you can choose which length you'd like to run, it's not a magic number or anything, just an estimate of how long is should be

    the dbol should be take every 6-8 hours, so 3-4x a day, the reason for this being that your blood test levels will rise after taking the dbol in direct correlation to the half-life of the dbol and taking it more frequently will result in less sides

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    Ooops! My bad!
    Last edited by jamon75; 04-03-2009 at 10:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamon75 View Post
    . Also, the dbol should be taken the entire length of cycle right?
    no...

    and

    no...


    we can't mention lab or brand names, that is against the rules of the forum(edit your post), and you don't want to run an oral over 4-5 weeks, they are harsh on your liver

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    I think you need a couple months of studying before you start this cycle

    you need to make sure you HAVE ON HAND all your PCT compounds just in case

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    I believe your are correct and on that note I want to thank you guys again and good night to you!

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