Second Cycle - Looking for input - help

[benbot]

Hi

I am trying to work out my second cycle. I finished my first cycle (12 weeks)
in December and I did six week tbol at 50mg per day, 500mg test, 300mg deca per week followed by 4 weeks of PCT. However after this cycle i am currently still struggling with my sex drive.

I am looking at starting my second cycle in a bout a month and have had my eye on either of the following:

Sustaplex 325 > 650mg per week
Dbol > 50mg per day - 6 weeks
Proviron 25mg per day
HCG 500iu per week

Or

Testogen Propionate 100 > 150mg EOD
EQ > 200mg EOD
Dianabol > 50 mg per day for 4 weeks
Proviron 25mg per day

I only want to do a 8 week cycle this time around.

Can anyone recommend any of these two stacks?
Please let me know if you need more info.

Many thanks,

[D7M]

first, let's get some stats...
age?
height?
weight?
bf?

how long are you taking off between cycles?

[T-MOS]

and they are both terrible if you only want 8 weeks cycle, neither are correct for that

[benbot]

Thanks,

age 32
Weight 187 lbs
Height 5.8
BF 15%

It will be 5 months since my last cycle when i start the second one. I am looking for maximum gains over a 8 week period, any help would be appreicated.

Thanks,

[D7M]

yah, I don't like either of those cycles bro.

for and 8 weeker you best look into prop.

cut out the Eq and prov from your 2nd cycle

[benbot]

oh forgot to mention I want to avoid taking deca if I can this time.

[D7M]

good idea if you only wanna run the cycle for 8 weeks.

sounds like you could benefit from some more research, bro

[benbot]

Thanks, My first choice was

Testogen Propionate 100 > 150mg EOD
Winstrol > 150mg EOD
Dianabol > 50 mg per day for 4 weeks

But then I was given advice on EQ.

[D7M]

Thanks, My first choice was

Testogen Propionate 100 > 150mg EOD
Winstrol > 150mg EOD
Dianabol > 50 mg per day for 4 weeks

But then I was given advice on EQ.

winny=ED. and how long did you plan on running it?

[benbot]

8 weeks.
winnie 100mg ED?

[D7M]

dbol and winny? why?

you'd be better off with the winny 100mg ED.

split the dose am/pm for better effectiveness.

[T-MOS]

dbol and winny? why?

you'd be better off with the winny 100mg ED.

split the dose am/pm for better effectiveness.

Agreed^^^

Drop the dbol as you will not need a kickstart with Prop

Winny 50mgs ED, EVERY DAY !!!!!

PCT starts 3 days after last prop shot

[jimmyinkedup]

how about a combo of the 2 - separately they dont make ssesne.
Test prop - 1-8
dball 1-5 - or maybe better lower dose mid cycle say 3-7 or 2-6 30mg/day
prov -25mg/day
hcg eh sure - 500iu/week (keep dose low like this or between test/dball and hcg imo and AI may become necessary)


pct plans???

[D7M]

yep, but he'll be fine with winny @ 100mg/ED.

20% of it will be destroyed in the second pass of the liver.

just run the winny weeks 2-8.

and liv52 *after* your cycle. milk thistle during the cycle will affect absorption.

[benbot]

Thanks for the input.

So to recap:

Test prop 150mg EOD
Winnie 100mg ED

Should I take Proviron and HCG during this cycle?
I am looking at 4 weeks of Nolva for PCT

[T-MOS]

Looks Better !!!