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04-10-2009, 10:16 AM #1Junior Member
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Test E and Deca
what do you think about this FIRST cycle?
week 1-12 Test e. 250mg each week
week 1-10 Deca 200mg each week
20mg ED accutane (for control acne...i'm prone)
PCT:
start 2 weeks after last injection
Days 1 - 14 = 40mg Nolva ed
Days 15 - 28 = 20mg of Nolva
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04-10-2009, 10:34 AM #2
I've seen your pics. You have a solid base and are of a good age.
Try just 500mg test e for 12 weeks, split into two injections per week. Accutane is pretty harsh from what I hear. I'd avoid it and try other measures if possible, but you know yourself better than I do. Nolva only pct is weak. Clomid, Nolva, and perhaps Aromasin would be a good combo. It would be good to have some adex for any estro sides that may arise while on. I'm also a fan of keeping some letro and extra nolva in the bottom drawer. Better to have it and not need it than the other way around.
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04-10-2009, 10:37 AM #3
Skip the deca like stick to 500mg per week of test e. If you want to kickstart low dose d-bol 1-4 would work as well, it is optional though.
PCT should be very simple:
Nolva
40-20-20-20
Clomid
100-50-50-50 or 50-50-50-50
AI on hand if needed during cycle
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04-10-2009, 10:55 AM #4Junior Member
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thx .
so i can try Test only cycle 12 week...and i use this PCT protocol:
week 14: 40mg ED Nolva and 50mg ED clomid ?
week 15-16-17: 20mg ED Nolva and 50mg ED clomid ?
it's right?
i want use accutane 20mg ED for 12 week becouse now i haven't acne, but 1 year ago I had a lot of acne and i have clear it with accutane...I am afraid that returns out me if i use Test....
with accutane can i control acne side? or test si more power that accutane?
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04-10-2009, 11:01 AM #5
That pct protocol looks good. Don't know anything abut accutane
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04-11-2009, 06:29 AM #6Junior Member
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after a cycle, will my levels of testosterone return normal or they will be more lower part?
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04-11-2009, 06:33 AM #7
They SHOULD return to normal as long as pct is done correctly.
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04-11-2009, 06:39 AM #8Junior Member
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04-11-2009, 06:41 AM #9
That's a risk all people have, not just a certain age. You, me, everyone who cycles.
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04-11-2009, 12:29 PM #10
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04-11-2009, 12:48 PM #11
Just a comment on the accutane, took it a long time ago so dont know if things have changed, but it works for a while even after u stop using it, keep it on hand if u notice a little acne dont start e/d you might just have to give it a little kick start ever now and then, maybe twice a week and go from there, It is tough on the liver, might want to consider a little liver protection.......just a thought!!!!
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04-14-2009, 05:35 AM #12Junior Member
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but, in a FIRST CYCLE, the PCT should check only the estrogens (i dont use HCG )...why should he also influence the levels of testosterone ?
I would not want, once ended the cycle, to become a shit...
why to make a cycle if then i return worse of before?
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04-14-2009, 10:44 AM #13
follow the pct suggested by ironmaiden and you will be fine
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