bout to make the jump

**BigandStrong** · 04-12-2009, 04:32 PM

just wondering whether there would be a difference between taking a ph now and getting whatever i can out of that and then starting a cycle of steroids or should i just jump right in to the juice? my diet and training are in check and i was just wondering if the ph's would kind of prep me before taking steroids.

**lord henry** · 04-12-2009, 04:34 PM

age
hight
weight
body fat%
years lifting
?

**BigandStrong** · 04-12-2009, 04:45 PM

20
5'9"
160
bodyfat - never had it tested but i can tell you im probably around 10% to 13%
2 years.

**lord henry** · 04-12-2009, 04:51 PM

too young and too light bud ,you could gain alot more natty with the right diet,BUT if your no willingt o lisen look into test e/c only and read up on pct anti e,s and ai,s .....

**jamyjamjr** · 04-12-2009, 04:53 PM

get your butt to the diet forum and post up a detailed diet for tweaking.. guys like myself, phate, nark, nova, fireguy are all well versed in correcting dieting knowledge... we can get u up to 185lbs naturaly easily... dont fuse your growth plates and risk damaging your natty test production just to get ahead early... juice isn't magic..

try to remember, getting big consists of

80% diet 15% training 5% gear

get the first two down before you jump into the third

**BigandStrong** · 04-12-2009, 04:55 PM

ok, i guess i'll stick to ph's. btw this here: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ht/ana.html
im assuming thats shit right? real anavar (oxandrolone) would be a lot more right? do you guys know a really strong ph that works.

jamy: just read your post. will do.

**jamyjamjr** · 04-12-2009, 04:57 PM

lol.. yea, that's bs... i dont recommend u take pro hormones either... take my advice and post up a diet

**romo6** · 04-12-2009, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by jamyjamjr

get your butt to the diet forum and post up a detailed diet for tweaking.. guys like myself, phate, nark, nova, fireguy are all well versed in correcting dieting knowledge... we can get u up to 185lbs naturaly easily... dont fuse your growth plates and risk damaging your natty test production just to get ahead early... juice isn't magic..

try to remember, getting big consists of

80% diet 15% training 5% gear

get the first two down before you jump into the third

So true,but i bet its not what he WANTS to hear.