Summer Bulker - Help Me Plan

**DKU** · 04-29-2009, 10:26 AM

last summer I ran something like:
750mg test e/week, 16 weeks
600mg deca /week, 14 weeks
350mg tren /week, 14 weeks

I was happy with the cycle, I gained about 30lbs.

This summer I'm thinking about:
1g test e/week, 16 weeks
1g deca/week, 14 weeks
600mg eq/week, 14 weeks
and 100mg adrol, 4 weeks (at the beginning or end)

I'm not sure about the inclusion of eq. I want to use it to increase my appetite - does this work?

I'm also not sure if I should lower the deca and add tren, or some other compound.

Suggestions are welcome.

Oh and:
6' 260lbs 18%, 4 previous cycles

**hankdiesel** · 04-29-2009, 12:18 PM

That's a ton of gear. I don't think you need the eq. It's a waste in my experience with bulking. The appetite thing is overrated.

**Dukkit** · 04-29-2009, 12:23 PM

im with Hank... forget the EQ

throw in some other item

if your appetite isnt high on a Gram of Test... then your not gonna eat no matter. lol

your deca /test/tren cycle is something like id like to run shortly. except i keep test lower and raise tren.

**chuckt12345** · 04-29-2009, 12:25 PM

i wouldnt jump up so much,, seems like you may have prbs with 1g deca

**Dukkit** · 04-29-2009, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

i wouldnt jump up so much,, seems like you may have prbs with 1g deca

i was gonna say that

but to really know we'd need to know his age.
how many cycles hes ran since the other cycle hes posted

**Immortal Soldier** · 04-29-2009, 01:07 PM

Your first person I have seen to run two 19-nors (Deca and Tren ) together at the same time in one cycle.

**Dukkit** · 04-29-2009, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

Your first person I have seen to run two 19-nors (Deca and Tren) together at the same time in one cycle.

i know lots of ppl who do it... and love it.

im itching to try it hopefully sometime this summer

**DKU** · 04-29-2009, 02:55 PM

Age = 23.

Yeah, I'll probably drop the eq. I haven't read much praise of it.

Maybe I'll drop the deca down to 800mg and add in some tren again. It did work pretty well last summer.

**Gappa** · 04-29-2009, 03:51 PM

roll the EQ on AFTER your bulking phase maybe keep the tren on for awhile longer if you can stand being on tren for any length of time. EQ is great for strength and vascularity with no water retention side effects

**DKU** · 04-29-2009, 04:34 PM

^ You recommend keeping the cycle going longer than 16 weeks? I don't mind the tren side effects. I get some insomnia, and lots of sweating.

**Gappa** · 04-29-2009, 04:47 PM

I keep a fan on my head at night. And I take 4 clonidene and 1 seroquel. The clonidene drops your blood pressure and the seroquel is a sleep aid/mood stabilizer.
Yeah I will run a cycle for up to 6 months. Usually right before and during the summer. But I get good gains from very small amounts of juice. I have done massive doses before don't get me wrong but smaller dosing for longer periods I really get the benefits out of it. I keep up with bloodwork too as all of my juice is legally provided by a doctor. x-cept tren of course.

**Gappa** · 04-29-2009, 04:49 PM

Building quality muscle tissue above all takes time even if you do everything completely right.

**DKU** · 04-29-2009, 05:15 PM

Maybe I will try a longer cycle. I've found that my gains tend to slow down pretty dramatically about 10 weeks in.

**Gappa** · 04-29-2009, 05:35 PM

nice busa btw. I am no fan of short cycles, again everyone's body is different. The only reason for a plateau would be lack of intensity or same routine, inadequate nutrition/supplementation. They say your receptors become downgraded but as long as I have been cycling when I am on, I keep gaining size and strength.