Does this make sense?

[fabboy54]

Would it be worth running tren E and EQ at the same time? Here is my stack can anyone let me know what they think I want to lean bulk kinda cut some body fat. I am going to go on a really hard diet for 2 months before I start. I will be using ECA stack and will be working out 5days a week cardio 40mins a day 5 days a week. I am 25 6'4 250 want to get to 235 before cycle I have taken 2 cycles the first one I had no idea what I was doing and it was dumb of me the second one was pretty good it was test only 500mg weeks1-12 and I did do PCT. I have been lifting on and off for about 4 or 5 yrs but been in the gym the past yr straight. My diet has been shit but I have changed it alot and I know how to work out.

Test E 750mg/week twice a week weeks1-12
Tren E 400mg/week weeks 1-10
EQ 500mg/week weeks 1-10
Dbol 30mg/day weeks 1-4
very hard PCT weeks 14-18

[jfalco]

I'm no expert, but I've been around here long enough to spit out the standard answer. You don't have nearly enough cycling experience to use tren .

I have no idea if the stack is a good one, but I know it is not for you. I've also noticed that most of the tren using crowd thinks eq is useless, so I doubt many would run this cycle.

[Dinosaur]

I would take out for sure the d-bol u don't want water retention especially since ur trying to lean out and 2nd i would eliminate the EQ u r running mutltiple compounds at the same time for a short period of time.

I would extend the test to at least 15 weeks.
what do u mean by hard pct?

[fabboy54]

Well for my pct I would run letro .25mg everyday for 30 days 100mg of clomid everyday for 30 days and 25mg of nolva everyday for 30 days. Sooo no tren ? I did tren my first cycle like a jackass but why would I not be ready for tren? What do you recomend if no tren?

[busaboy27]

i like the cycle minus the eq. i done tren many times...

u can hit the d-bol to jump start water weight will go away..

read up on the tren and prepare for side effects..
caber.. and so on..

what is your body fat%

[WARMachine]

Why on earth would someone run Letro during PCT?

Did you not know that Letro causes an estrogen rebound effect?

You need to research bro... Otherwise you will likely hurt your body.

[Big]

Why on earth would someone run Letro during PCT?

I wonder the same thing, this seems to be proposed so often and it never makes sense to me.

[WARMachine]

^ Lack of knowledge is what i chalk it up to.

[fabboy54]

Ok so no letro I have read up on letro and did not know it had a rebound effect so then adex .25mg would that work? This is a cycle I have not taken yet but want to this is the reason I am here to learn and find out about what to do and not do. Thanks for the replys right now I am probably at about 18% bf want to be at 14% before I start my cycle. I play football soo I want to do a lean bulk what do you recomend if no tren ?

[WARMachine]

NO!

Adex isnt a great choice either.

Nolvadex dude! Read my sticky at the top of this page.

Its long i know, but it includes everything youll need to know about PCT and ERSE prevention and treatment.

[fabboy54]

Ok so what about aromasin hcg nolvadex and vitamin E for 6 weeks does that sound ok for a pct?

[WARMachine]

*sigh*

I take it you didnt read my sticky?

[fabboy54]

haha I just read your thread and im still confused u talk about tamox nolvadex and you say prevent gyno before it happens and yes I am ERSEP. Soo would I run adex .5mg eod while on cycle and if I get gyno sides then use tamox 40mg ed for first 5 days then reduce until PCT. And what is the proviron for should I add it to the PCT at about 25mg ed? The part where I get confused is where you dont give a clear asnwer as to what to use for PCT. Soo what can I use I have read your thread 2 times now and im still confused sorry for the ignorance.