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    Critique Cycle Please

    I posted a little bit about my cycle and asked if I should wait. I decided to wait about a month, but will begin after.

    My stats are:
    Age: 31
    Weight: 185
    BF: 8-10%

    I've been lifting for 15 years, but started just started on a five day schedule again. I will post another two questions in the diet and workout forum after I'm finished with this. However, please critique the following cycle.

    Gear:
    1.Nandronlone Decanoate (x2) 200mg/ml, 5% Benzyl Alcohol, 5% Benzyl Benzoate

    2. Testosterone Cypionate 208mg/ml, 3% Benzyl Alcohol, 20% Benzyl Benzoate

    3. Lypholized HCG + Bacteriostatic Water (Have to mix when ready)

    4. 100 Tamoxifen 20mg caps

    Cycle:

    Week 1 - 9
    Mondays - 2ml Deca
    Wednesdays - 2.5 ml Test C

    Week 10
    Monday - 1 ml Deca
    Wednesday - 1.25 ml Test C

    Week 11
    Monday - .5 ml Deca
    Wednesday - .75 ml Test C

    Week 12
    Monday - .25 ml Deca
    Wednesday - .5 ml Test C

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    Week 3,6,9,12
    Monday - 1/2 HCG
    Starting Tamoxifen every day 1 20mg cap
    Wednesday - 1/2 HCG


    So there it is. I was trying to focus on half-life expectancy as well as how my body deals with gyno (never had, but do get the tingle)

    So please, let me have some constructive critisizm.

    Thank you
    -The Zook

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    Height?
    First cycle?

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    I don't like it. no need to keep changing the dosages.

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    Why are you running low dose NOLVA*** during cycle?

    Jeeze how many cycles have you done?
    Last edited by IM708; 06-01-2009 at 08:40 PM.

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    I'm 6' and this is my second cycle.

    I run a low does of Novadex throughout the cycle like that becuase I have been prone to gyno. Around week 3 the last time (Sustanon 250)

    Like I said if I need to change this please let me know. I'm just trying to optimize what I have...

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    Also I changed the dosages at the end to "taper off".
    If you don't like it what can be done to make it better and
    why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zookl View Post
    Also I changed the dosages at the end to "taper off".
    If you don't like it what can be done to make it better and
    why?
    tapering is an outdated concept that does not work, which is why I don't like it. to make it better, don't taper lol.

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    buy ai (adex) keep on hand if gyno symptoms start to appear

    Can you possibly write your cycle in mg dosages? ml is worthless without knowing the conc.

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    Cool, thank you Big. So tapering off is pointless then? Should I just use the same amount of Deca and Test until week 12??

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    follow even dosages, but stop the deca a week before you stop the test c. your natural testosterone production will not attempt to restart while there is any deca present, so whether there is 100mg or 1000mg present, your natural production will be completely shut down.

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    I am pulilng from the following:

    1. Two 10ml Deca 200mg/ml
    2. Two 10ml (and one 5ml) Test C 208mg/ml

    This is what I am pulling my 2ml and 2.5ml from.

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    I understand that but that gives the amount of substance you are taking but not the conc. of it. Ex 200mg/ml, 250mg/ml, 100mcg/ml, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    follow even dosages, but stop the deca a week before you stop the test c. your natural testosterone production will not attempt to restart while there is any deca present, so whether there is 100mg or 1000mg present, your natural production will be completely shut down.

    Thank you Big, I will make the appropriate change to the cycle. I will stop the deca on week 11 and continue to use the test c until week 12. I will also keep my doses at 2ml and 2.5 ml until finished..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden708 View Post
    I understand that but that gives the amount of substance you are taking but not the conc. of it. Ex 200mg/ml, 250mg/ml, 100mcg/ml, etc.

    Did I edit the concentration correctly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zookl View Post
    Did I edit the concentration correctly?
    I didn't even notice that in your initial post, my apologies.

    So how you plan to run it would be a good dosage through your cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaiden708 View Post
    I didn't even notice that in your initial post, my apologies.

    So how you plan to run it would be a good dosage through your cycle.
    Cool, I thought I ws going crazy for a second.

    A few friends of mine tell me to increase the test to 500, but I think with the deca I'm okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zookl View Post
    Cool, I thought I ws going crazy for a second.

    A few friends of mine tell me to increase the test to 500, but I think with the deca I'm okay?
    400 mg deca and 500mg test would be great for a second cycle. Always the optional kickstart

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