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    Also will PCT wont have to be as strong if you are using HCG during most of your cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    good job bro sorry about the drama in your thread
    no need to say sorry, i love reading all the information i can, hearing different sides of arguements, ect. this site has given me so much more confidence then i would have had, i appreciate it all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TractionIssues View Post
    Also will PCT wont have to be as strong if you are using HCG during most of your cycle.
    not sure if i can get hcg easily around here (didnt see it on ar-r either), and even so, i have heard with an 11 week cycle it'd be a waste anyways.

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    also (sorry to flood the thread), but if i start seeing signs of gyno on this cycle what would be the best course of action considering what i have on hand (clomid, nolva, l-dex)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dville_gt View Post
    not sure if i can get hcg easily around here (didnt see it on ar-r either), and even so, i have heard with an 11 week cycle it'd be a waste anyways.
    Depends who it comes from, but if it keeps my jewels from shinking you can damn bet it's worth every penny, and also giving ease to therapy. Alot of people swear by it.

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    I don't like nolva with a 19nor. I would take B6 while on cycle, and if needed run the adex. If you're new to deca you might want to have bromo or caber on hand as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dville_gt View Post
    also (sorry to flood the thread), but if i start seeing signs of gyno on this cycle what would be the best course of action considering what i have on hand (clomid, nolva, l-dex)
    That's what your L-Dex is for You can also include a small amount of an AI like L-Dex in your PCT if you did not use any during your cycle due to estrogenic effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I don't like nolva with a 19nor. I would take B6 while on cycle, and if needed run the adex. If you're new to deca you might want to have bromo or caber on hand as well.

    please forgive me, i am not familiar with bromo or caber? could you please fill me in? are these legal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dville_gt View Post
    please forgive me, i am not familiar with bromo or caber? could you please fill me in? are these legal?
    I guess it depends on where you are, here in the states they are not otc. search each and read up a bit, it's my bedtime.
    good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    I would just run the clomid at 100mg ed for the first two weeks
    Brilliant advice. Did you get that one out Anabolics 2002?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice Authority View Post
    Brilliant advice. Did you get that one out Anabolics 2002?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    I don't like nolva with a 19nor. I would take B6 while on cycle, and if needed run the adex. If you're new to deca you might want to have bromo or caber on hand as well.
    x2. Nolva and progestins don't mix well. Progestins binds with an affinity to the progesterone receptor of 60%, on top of this nolva has the ability to up-regulate progesterone receptors making matters worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice Authority View Post
    Brilliant advice. Did you get that one out Anabolics 2002?
    Last post dont get another one lock retard.....

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    Okay, so if I start having issues bring in the l-dex instead of the nolva. How many mg and what frequency would be good to combat these sides. I assume I run the l-dex until the problem subsides, then I resume the l-dex again after my last pinning? Are the caber or bromo absolutely nessacary to have on hand for this cycle, or should the research quality l-dex be enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    dude I have tried to be nice to you this is not your fuvking thread move the fuvk on dumb ass, where is the rest of my post and is the same as big's dumb ass move the fuvk on no one want to hear you bitch
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    Last post dont get another one lock retard.....
    Yawn. There are actually some smart guys on this board (you not being one of them). This thread minus your posts has actually been intellectually stimulating. I've enjoyed the exchange with Big, T-MOS, and TractionIssues. You on the other hand are starting to take on 'troll like' symptoms with really nothing meaningful to add. If the thread was about to be locked don't you think one of the Mods would have hinted towards that or is that above your sub-80 IQ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice Authority View Post
    Yawn. There are actually some smart guys on this board (you not being one of them). This thread minus your posts has actually been intellectually stimulating. I've enjoyed the exchange with Big, T-MOS, and TractionIssues. You on the other hand are starting to take on 'troll like' symptoms with really nothing meaningful to add. If the thread was about to be locked don't you think one of the Mods would have hinted towards that or is that above your sub-80 IQ?
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    Come on guys, lets just stop the arguement so I dont have to repost to get the rest of my answers. I appreciate all the input thus far, its getting a little crazy now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    yea but I was fuvking your girl in the ass while typing but she got mad because I would not kiss her fuvked up teeth....
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    sorry all she could say is you had deca dick and could not get it up retard
    If you were worried about getting the thread locked then what you just posted, as immature and lame as it was, is a good start. Good night moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dville_gt View Post
    Come on guys, lets just stop the arguement so I dont have to repost to get the rest of my answers. I appreciate all the input thus far, its getting a little crazy now though.
    sorry bro, some have chips on the shoulder, big if you can edit the flaming post...any other question...bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    sorry bro, some have chips on the shoulder, big if you can edit the flaming post...any other question...bro
    I don't know why you find it necessary to take shots at my wife. Is my wife a target of some sort around here? Take all the shots you want at me but leave her out of it. Your immaturely is glaring and your knowledge of AAS pharmacology is definitely lacking, which sort of makes you an empty suit on forums like this. How old are you?

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    bro, dont worry about juice authority anything else we can do for you let us know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by prone2rage View Post
    bro, dont worry about juice authority anything else we can do for you let us know...
    Yeah, stop sending me this shit.

    Today 11:34 PMprone2rage
    I have been here a long time dumb ass and gave the guy good advice it is your post that started all of this because they called you out on it, just like your thread on first cycles, which show you are a dumb ass and need to move on....

    and on the other sorry your wife has fuvked up teeth bro, it is not my fault talk to god about that one.....

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    pm me your address and will send you some money to get your girls teeth fixed...lmfao

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    move on retard...

    View Conversation Report Today 10:26 PMprone2rage
    you are a true dumb ass......grow up

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    Quote Originally Posted by TractionIssues View Post
    So your saying if he does 500mg/week of Test he should only do 250mg of Deca? Deca is much more effective at about 400mg/week, and he really has no need to go over 500mg of Test...

    Ok. Before commenting on someone else's question, you might wanna make sure you have correct knowledge man. You never ever run 500 Test and stack with 400 deca , it's always good and known, to run 2:1 otherwise you get deca dick, if your running 600 test, you are to run 300 deca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killak9

    Ok. Before commenting on someone else's question, you might wanna make sure you have correct knowledge man. You never ever run 500 Test and stack with 400 deca, it's always good and known, to run 2:1 otherwise you get deca dick, if your running 600 test, you are to run 300 deca.
    Bro science chiming in and providing ridiculous unproven ratios. I've ran deca alone and never had 'deca dick'. I've known people that ran 1-1/2 grams test with 500 mgs deca and his dick was only useful as a paper weight for months before and after coming off. There is no right or wrong. Only what works for each individual. If I was running 500mgs test I wouldn't hesitate to run deca at 400. And I'd be fine. And I'd have a more effective cycle then 250mgs without question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killak9 View Post
    Ok. Before commenting on someone else's question, you might wanna make sure you have correct knowledge man. You never ever run 500 Test and stack with 400 deca, it's always good and known, to run 2:1 otherwise you get deca dick, if your running 600 test, you are to run 300 deca.
    Welcome to 2009. Population...you.

    This is a 4 year old thread.

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    You can run Deca at 1:1 ratio no problem. My uncle is the best southern cali endo. He works with top bodybuilders. He says its fine at 1:1. I am running at the moment 300mg of deca and 500 of test just to keep joints lubricated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brazilian86 View Post
    You can run Deca at 1:1 ratio no problem. My uncle is the best southern cali endo. He works with top bodybuilders. He says its fine at 1:1. I am running at the moment 300mg of deca and 500 of test just to keep joints lubricated.
    Your Endocrinologist uncle told you to run 500mg of Test and 300mg of Deca to keep your joints lubricated? Your uncle is a MORON. What is his name? Tell us, so that we can prevent others from being harmed by this retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    for bulking purposes I would not run less than 400mg/week deca and would not run it for less than 10 weeks. provided at least a trt dose of test is present, there is no need for a "deca to test" ratio. I've had great cycles with 600mg/week deca and 250mg/week test.
    Agreeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    Your Endocrinologist uncle told you to run 500mg of Test and 300mg of Deca to keep your joints lubricated? Your uncle is a MORON. What is his name? Tell us, so that we can prevent others from being harmed by this retard.
    You know thats not what I meant. I am on a blast hahahaha
    The deca is for joints.

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    dont go OVER 1500mg/week total of all compounds... 500mg test///300mg DECA ///winny (exogenous or digested)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    Welcome to 2009. Population...you.

    This is a 4 year old thread.
    LMAO. I missed it to. But I was replying to a recent comment.

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