first DNP cycle and i'm taking 68 pills a day....

[Reed]

But go ahead and diss me all you want, I'm down to take it and also done with this thread.

I don't feel like going back in forth. I have more important things to focus on.

[loftros]

^^^ Agreed. I don't need clen , DNP or anything like that to get shredded. In contest prep now and I'm not using those the whole time. Should only be used my professionals on a need to only basis

Ever tried dieting properly.

To the OP what is the diet looking like? You understand that you HAVE to have that on point especially with a drug like that or expect to lose muscle and look worse like the one kid did that tried out a few months ago. His abs actually went away AND he got smaller

I dont really see anything wrong with running a low dose during a cut to speed up fat loss, of course you should always run a strict diet.

I saw that other dnp kid and he no idea what he was eating on dnp, because the majority of weight loss is from fat sources.

Simkins S 1937 Dinitrophenol and desiccated thyroid in the treatment of obesity. JAMA 108:2110–2119.
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The extra energy of metabolism is derived mainly from fat and practically not at all from protein or carbohydrate. Consequently, dinitrophenol in therapeutic dosage produces no breakdown of significant amounts of body protein, even with patients on an inadequate protein intake. This is in marked contrast with the very consdierable increase in nitrogen excretion observed in patients undergoing treatment with thyroid. The fat is used completely and satisfactorily broken down, as no ketone bodies are found in urine. There is a no hyperlipidemia or constant change in the fixed and fatty acids of the blood.

[Reed]

I dont really see anything wrong with running a low dose during a cut to speed up fat loss, of course you should always run a strict diet.

I saw that other dnp kid and he no idea what he was eating on dnp, because the majority of weight loss is from fat sources.

Simkins S 1937 Dinitrophenol and desiccated thyroid in the treatment of obesity. JAMA 108:2110–2119.
Quote:
The extra energy of metabolism is derived mainly from fat and practically not at all from protein or carbohydrate. Consequently, dinitrophenol in therapeutic dosage produces no breakdown of significant amounts of body protein, even with patients on an inadequate protein intake. This is in marked contrast with the very consdierable increase in nitrogen excretion observed in patients undergoing treatment with thyroid. The fat is used completely and satisfactorily broken down, as no ketone bodies are found in urine. There is a no hyperlipidemia or constant change in the fixed and fatty acids of the blood.

That is your opinion and I respect that. I have mine, you have yours. I feel also clenbuterol is too dangerous to be running due to its affects on the heart as do many high level respected members across many boards.

I don't believe I disrespected him in my post. I first gave my opinion as he asked for with no specifics of what I should say and then inquired about his diet and was willing to help him if you look into the post. He took it the wrong way and started the name calling. This then lead to what it is now.

Its ok I understand he is upset and am willing to take all the disses about how dumb I am or about how he will come find me and all that good stuff. I really don't care, like I said I have other things to focus in on.

If you have the knowledge to help him out then do so. Good luck guys

[tripmachine]

Hmm well was it a helpful post or not. Check the man's reply. I will still admit not very educated on DNP but know enough that its too dangerous for fat boys like you (I remember your pics) that start training "serious" when summer hits and only want to lose a few lbs cause their too weak minded to diet and all that it is necessary in order to look good. It takes years of dieting to make it.... you couldn't comprehend that cause you gotta use DNP to lose weight and have a six pack

But now we all can realize here that you aren't very educated on dieting or training am I right?

lol so i start to training serious when summer hits? actually i've been training seroius since oct. 2007 and am probably newer to this than you are but that's against the point. If you remember my pics that's great! I know i was fat wasn't i? I am not saying I wasn't... i'm not fat now but i want to use DNP regardless at least once because i'm so intrigued by how it works and I've done a ton of reading on it as well. I'm at 13% right now which i know isn't 'fat' like you think i am but i guess it's fat in your opinion but that's cool if you think that way. I actually watched milos videos on nutrition and have done quit ea bit of reading as well on diet. I know A LOT more now than i did before. I am sure there is even much more to learn. anyway there isn't really much sense talking to you because your opinion on DNP is different than mine.

[tripmachine]

That is your opinion and I respect that. I have mine, you have yours. I feel also clenbuterol is too dangerous to be running due to its affects on the heart as do many high level respected members across many boards.

I don't believe I disrespected him in my post. I first gave my opinion as he asked for with no specifics of what I should say and then inquired about his diet and was willing to help him if you look into the post. He took it the wrong way and started the name calling. This then lead to what it is now.

Its ok I understand he is upset and am willing to take all the disses about how dumb I am or about how he will come find me and all that good stuff. I really don't care, like I said I have other things to focus in on.

If you have the knowledge to help him out then do so. Good luck guys

why would i want to come find you??? you are getting a bit carried away don't you think? Maybe you ran into guys in the past that wanted to be crazy psychos and hunt you down but i'm not one of them. I don't know what made you jump to that conclusion but don't judge everyone from past experiences you may have had.