Test Cyp and EQ

**yarite** · 06-04-2009, 02:36 PM

I started a cycle of 250mg Test Cyp twice a week along with 200 mg EQ twice a week. I feel no strength gains and wondered if Cyp takes a while to kick in. Do you think I should add in some Test Prop 100 mg EOD or could I stretch it to twice a week? What are your thoughts? One other thing, the day of my injections my body aches all over and am very tired. Anyone have side effects like this?

**2jz_calgary** · 06-04-2009, 02:43 PM

Test cyp takes 3-5 weeks to start taking effect depending on the person, but its one of the longer esters next to deca .

**chuckt12345** · 06-04-2009, 03:03 PM

just be patient daniel son,, it will come. i mean if you got prop lyin around you can kickstart it with some

**Juice Authority** · 06-04-2009, 03:27 PM

It takes a very long time to start noticing anything from EQ. At 200mgs/wk you will notice next to nothing. I would suggest Deca instead. EQ really needs to be run for at least 16 week (yes 16 weeks) for noticeable gains and that's at a high dose (600mgs/wk +) too.

EQ also increases RBC more so than any other compound, which is why it is considered by some, an endurance drug. However, you need to be careful here too. The excess number of cells in the bloodstream lowers the amount of liquid in your blood vessels. This makes the blood thicker so it flows less easily, especially through smaller blood vessels.

Apart from that, EQ causes severe anxiety in some, worse than Tren . IMO, EQ really has no place in a 10-12 week cycle.

**Alphatier** · 06-04-2009, 04:22 PM

@ juiceauthority

He's running 400mg/week, and yes for a beginner, which I think he is, 400mg is plenty to make some solid gains.

And yes running it 14-16 weeks is optimal, but I wouldn't see an issue with 10-12 weeks.

**Sauced man** · 06-04-2009, 06:43 PM

I'm runnin da same but Test Cyp @ 400mg/week and EQ @ 400mg/week for 12 weeks.

3 questions-

1- should I extend the EQ only to 14 weeks??

2- Adex for AI when should i start?? and end?? planning on .25mg/ed w/out gyno symptoms and up to .75mg/ed if symptoms present

3- I wanted to use clomid for PCT but my source doesnt have it should i use HCG instead?? how much?? start during cycle or after??

stats:
age 34
187lbs @ 10%BF
10+yrs experience in gym
2nd cycle (gained 20lbs off 500mg sust last cycle a year ago)
approx 250-300grams protein consumed daily
approx 150-200carbs consumed daily
cardio 45mins 5-6days/week @ 140BPM HR

**Alphatier** · 06-04-2009, 06:54 PM

Of course if you have enoug EQ for 12-14 weeks, then by all means run it that long. You'll get more out it.

Is this your first cyle?

**spooledup** · 06-04-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by juice authority

imo, eq really has no place in a 10-12 week cycle.

u r dum

**Juice Authority** · 06-04-2009, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by spooledup

u r dum

How illuminating.

**Juice Authority** · 06-04-2009, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by lean n' mean

@ juiceauthority

He's running 400mg/week, and yes for a beginner, which I think he is, 400mg is plenty to make some solid gains.

And yes running it 14-16 weeks is optimal, but I wouldn't see an issue with 10-12 weeks.

14-16 weeks is where most 'start' to see results from EQ, dosage aside. Most actually run for EQ for 20 weeks. I've run EQ in a lot of past cycles so that's my experience and the experience of many others.

**Sauced man** · 06-04-2009, 10:27 PM

2nd cycle.....

and fer AI and PCT???

**spooledup** · 06-04-2009, 10:31 PM

Most of my gains from EQ come in the 8-12week period, after that period of time I do not gain more no matter how much I increase the doseage.

Stop speaking for everyone because your understanding is nothing like mine.

**Juice Authority** · 06-04-2009, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by spooledup

Most of my gains from EQ come in the 8-12week period, after that period of time I do not gain more no matter how much I increase the doseage.

Stop speaking for everyone because your understanding is nothing like mine.

Uh huh. EQ is so mild unless taken at ridicously high dosages that most experienced users don't even mess with it as there are much better alternatives. What you thought you gained from EQ in that timeframe was likely whatever other compound you were running with it.

**seriousmass** · 06-04-2009, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Juice Authority

Uh huh. EQ is so mild unless taken at ridicously high dosages that most experienced users don't even mess with it as there are much better alternatives. What you thought you gained from EQ in that timeframe was likely whatever other compound you were running with it.

It's true... even running it at 600mg / wk you will just got more vascularity... gains are so minimal... hunger increases.. but for the absurdly high price of EQ it just makes more sense to buy test or deca !

**Juice Authority** · 06-04-2009, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by seriousmass

It's true... even running it at 600mg / wk you will just got more vascularity... gains are so minimal... hunger increases.. but for the absurdly high price of EQ it just makes more sense to buy test or deca!

And that was my point although I didn't personally notice any hunger increases but a lot of people do. I would say EQ is good to use as a cutter for other compounds but you might as well buy cottonseed oil. It's a lot cheaper.

**seriousmass** · 06-04-2009, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Juice Authority

And that was my point although I didn't personally notice any hunger increases but a lot of people do. I would say EQ is good to use as a cutter for other compounds but you might as well buy cottonseed oil. It's a lot cheaper.

hahaha yup! EQ is uselesss

**Juice Authority** · 06-04-2009, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by seriousmass

hahaha yup! EQ is uselesss

Not completely useless. If your goal is to increase your RBC count to such a point where you need to donate blood then I guess it could be useful for that. There's always a need for blood.