lil bit of help please

**desolate** · 06-17-2009, 10:12 AM

hey people im new here and lookin for sum advice. ive been trainin for about 10 months now and go gym 4 times a week without seeing much of a differance in size despite listenin to personal trainers so a month ago i decided to try some steroids . i got a course of sustanon from a friend wich has done good on my arms n my back n shoulders but has put some fat on my chest n added a bit more fat to my stomach wich already had some on. dont get me wrong its not like im obeese i weigh 12 stone. was just wondering if some one could reccomend sum steroids where it wud build muscle fast withowt adding much fat to my stomach or chest? or just a cutting steroid that wud add sum muscle or sumthing? im just lookin for a bit ov advice any comments wud be appreciated

**johnq** · 06-17-2009, 10:24 AM

go to the diet section.

**johnnybigguns** · 06-17-2009, 10:34 AM

You putting on fat is all to do with your diet

**desolate** · 06-17-2009, 10:38 AM

so wud sus be ok for me to use? even tho i already carry a bit of fat?

**johnnybigguns** · 06-17-2009, 10:41 AM

If your carry fat you shouldn't have started steriods in the first place.
Whats your age/height/bf%?

**jonmichaels88** · 06-17-2009, 12:48 PM

yeah you should have a low body fat percentage before starting any cycle

**Tigershark** · 06-17-2009, 12:59 PM

Welcome.

**desolate** · 06-17-2009, 05:09 PM

im 20, 5 foot 10 and i weigh 12 stone . im not sure on my body fat. so a no go for the steroids then??

**Mafiusu** · 06-17-2009, 05:16 PM

should have several years training under your belt before running anything.should have diet and training down to a T . also a vast knowledge on gear use.
after reading the posts the short time ive been here looks like this is the norm.

i shudder to ask...............
do you have any anti-e's on hand by chance.
what are you running for PCT.

**Big** · 06-17-2009, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by desolate

im 20, 5 foot 10 and i weigh 12 stone . im not sure on my body fat. so a no go for the steroids then??

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896

**c-Z** · 06-17-2009, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by desolate

im 20, 5 foot 10 and i weigh 12 stone . im not sure on my body fat. so a no go for the steroids then??

TOO YOUNG.... Diet sucks according to BIG i see.... LMAO. Study more bro. Learn what you are using. Then come back in a couple years....

OH and get that diet in check.

**eatrainrest** · 06-17-2009, 05:24 PM

that was in BIG's back pocket the whole time... lol

**c-Z** · 06-17-2009, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by eatrainrest

that was in BIG's back pocket the whole time... lol

Can't stop laughing.... And I never saw it coming.............. LMAO...... What section did he make that up in. ROFL thats F*cking funny.

No offense to OP. It's just amazing how many people weigh next to nothing and want steroids . You Can definitely pack a couple more pounds on.

**desolate** · 06-17-2009, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mafiusu

should have several years training under your belt before running anything.should have diet and training down to a T . also a vast knowledge on gear use.
after reading the posts the short time ive been here looks like this is the norm.

i shudder to ask...............
do you have any anti-e's on hand by chance.
what are you running for PCT.

dont know what anti e's are m8. only reason i got sum steroids is because i bin trainin about 10 months now 4 times a week n have not seen a differance in muscle but ive got stronger. my mates got sum sus a few months ago and theve bin on it and they look quite big now. just felt like i was wasteing my time trying to do it naturally when other people are using these and lookin good off it

**Big** · 06-17-2009, 05:30 PM

do you have a pct planned? do your mates run pct?

**Mafiusu** · 06-17-2009, 05:34 PM

if they dont know about anti-e's or pct give it a few months. when they come off they will end up back where they were hopefully without a set of tits to go with the depression,low libido and everything else that comes with not running a proper PCT.

**c-Z** · 06-17-2009, 05:43 PM

A lot of people feel they were wasting time until they d a doing a cycle.... But before doing a cycle there are proper procedures...... You should get your weight to a reasonable amount for your height. Diet is a key player. If you can't get our weight up naturally you won't grow much on steroids .

**desolate** · 06-18-2009, 03:47 AM

no do not have a pct planned i didnt know about it before i can on here. do u guys know a place i can buy a pct from? cause im guessing trying steroids was a bad idea after speakin to you lot

**lovbyts** · 06-18-2009, 04:47 AM

Most personal trainers are idiots. No offense to any that might be here. I'm sure you know the ones I'm talking about, they have NO size and most look out of shape.

You are in the right place to learn how to diet and gain size. Welcome

**desolate** · 06-18-2009, 04:49 AM

Please read the rules befpre you post again.
Big

**lovbyts** · 06-18-2009, 05:01 AM

Hurry up and EDIT your link. Read the rules. NO posting links

It's been stated, you DONT need steroids . You need to read the Diet section and learn to eat. At your age and weight they will do more harm than good.

Do a little more research on PCT and dont be to quick to jump on the first site you see.

**Free Will** · 06-18-2009, 05:03 AM

dont post other websites here man ...you will get banned , i am a new member to so i thought i would give you the heads up ...go to the rules and read up on them thoroughly

**Free Will** · 06-18-2009, 05:05 AM

hey this is a bit

but BIG or lovbyts or chev ...everytime i go to view someones profile it sais im not aloud ...any reason why i wouldnt be ? i just wanted to check out some pics of peeps

**lovbyts** · 06-18-2009, 05:10 AM

Maybe not enough post yet. See what happens when you read 50? Just like you can PM until 25

**Free Will** · 06-18-2009, 05:11 AM

oh ok well ive only been here for 3 days now ..maybe thats it , i only have like 48 posts

**lovbyts** · 06-18-2009, 05:14 AM

Rule #10 - 100 Posts or 45 Days Before PMing Source Checks.

So it might be the same for seeing profiles?

**Free Will** · 06-18-2009, 05:20 AM

Yea your probably right ...oh well i will wait , just do some more posts i guess

**lovbyts** · 06-18-2009, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by kelljones

Yea your probably right ...oh well i will wait , just do some more posts i guess

Dont forget to do some reading also. It took me a while to learn how much good information there is in the other sections also, almost all of them.

Have fun and learn.

**desolate** · 06-18-2009, 05:41 AM

sorry about that link guys. so does a pct have to be taken within a certain time of the last time i used steroids or anytime after ive stopped using?

**lovbyts** · 06-18-2009, 05:49 AM

Yes
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

Please read.

**Free Will** · 06-18-2009, 05:50 AM

generally 14 days after last injection of cycle desolate , thats what ive been reading although maybe a more senior member can answer that for you ....and yea i have been reading heaps lov ..its a very informative site