Beginner with some questions??

**andress14** · 07-15-2009, 01:21 PM

Hi, my name is Andres. I didn't know alot about steroids and how to use them the first time i tried them. I actually did a cycle of winstrol alone with no other supplement of nothing. I weight 150 lbs so that was def. not a great idea and it did nothing to me of course. Last week i started a bulking cycle with Test and Deca ... and I have few questions about it, if anyone can help me. I'm taking 2 ml of each per week. I play soccer so i do burn alot of calories so i'm taking weight gainers to keep my calorie levels high. I'm also taking vitamin supplements and aminoacids.

1. How long does it take for results to show? I haven't seen any ( neither strength, weight gain or even side effects ) so far and i'm getting anxious. I've heard since i'm new at this the results should show faster than to someone who's been using them for a while.

2. How true is it that i shouldn't be as active sexually because thru semen test goes to waste?

3. What should be my next cycle like?

My goal is to get to at least 180 lbs.

Thank you!!

**G4R** · 07-15-2009, 01:23 PM

Welcome

First off, lets start like this....

Stats-
Age?
Height?
Weight?
BF%
Diet (details please)*
Cycle Exp?
PCT Knowlege
Training Exp

*Diet Summary Example:

Meal 1
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xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 2
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 3
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 4
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 5
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Meal 6
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)
xxxxxxx ( Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg)

Totals: Cal xxg, Fat xxg, Protein xxg, Carbs xxg

**Mooseman33** · 07-15-2009, 01:24 PM

u weigh 150lbs now man?
whare ur full stats?

**Mooseman33** · 07-15-2009, 01:25 PM

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**Parabody84** · 07-15-2009, 01:49 PM

Hope u like reading cause you need to do alot of it.

**ninesecz** · 07-15-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by andress14

Hi, my name is Andres. I didn't know alot about steroids and how to use them the first time i tried them. I actually did a cycle of winstrol alone with no other supplement of nothing. I weight 150 lbs so that was def. not a great idea and it did nothing to me of course. Last week i started a bulking cycle with Test and Deca ... and I have few questions about it, if anyone can help me. I'm taking 2 ml of each per week. I play soccer so i do burn alot of calories so i'm taking weight gainers to keep my calorie levels high. I'm also taking vitamin supplements and aminoacids.

1. How long does it take for results to show? I haven't seen any ( neither strength, weight gain or even side effects ) so far and i'm getting anxious. I've heard since i'm new at this the results should show faster than to someone who's been using them for a while.

2. How true is it that i shouldn't be as active sexually because thru semen test goes to waste?

3. What should be my next cycle like?

My goal is to get to at least 180 lbs.

Thank you!!

1. Will always take 3-6 weeks for that ester to start showing results

2. Screw as much as you want test does not disapate through your sperm

3. My next cycle would be a course of studying! Do you even have your PCT and diet worked out or are you just shooting up and eating and hoping for the best!

**redz** · 07-15-2009, 02:25 PM

Another guy jumping in with no idea what he is doing. Lets see those stats.

**andress14** · 07-16-2009, 10:26 AM

I'm 5'6, 150 lbs, 25 years old. I've been training for well over 5 years. My body fat is at right around 11% with body mass around 21%. Again technically this will be my first time trying this out so NO i don't have any cycle experience, I've been training for a while and my body can only get so big that's why i'm trying this out. The first time i tried steroids it was a big failure cuz i didn't read much about it. This time i know alot more but i still don't consider myself an expert.

As far as my diet, i've been eating much better and healthier, i'm having 5 meals per day where i consume alot of lean meat, rice, eggs, wheat bread, cheese, etc.. I do not know exact number of carbs, calories, etc sorry ( let me hear that nasty comment, damn there're some jerks out there )

Again if i'm here asking a question is because obviously i am not an expert and i'm trying to get some help. If you have educative advise that will help me with my cycle great, and thank you for taking the time to respond... if not, keep the comments to yourselves.

Right after i'm done with this cycle i was thinking about doing some Hcg but i'm not sure that's why i am asking for advise in this matter too.

***T-MOS*** · 07-16-2009, 10:29 AM

You need to get your PCT in order

HCG is NOT enough and you are not using it correctly

look into CLOMID/NOLVA for your PCT

It would be best if you asked these questions BEFORE you start a cycle without knowing what you are doing so we could guide you better

**stelq61th** · 07-16-2009, 10:30 AM

ask your doctor, and dont forget that everybody gain weight and become big sooner or later, always...have fun

**Free Will** · 07-16-2009, 10:52 AM

well i will put it simply for you man ....now this is just the beginners cycle , you said you are taking 2ml of each per week ?? at what mg per ml is the test ? the best advice i can offer you is to get your diet nailed first , make sure you have a good pct planned , do not start without it ...nolva and clomi will do great ....then and only then you should consider running 500mg a week for 12 weeks of test e , if you have 200mg ,ml then you will be doing 2.5 ml a week , so 1.25ml every 3.5 days ,but if you have 250mg ,ml then just 2 ml a week will do fine .... i suggest you just run a test only cycle for your first one so you can tell how your body will react to the esters , run that for 12 weeks and then 14 days after last injection start with your pct .....good luck and welcome

**andress14** · 07-16-2009, 11:51 AM

nolva is on its way i had ordered it last week and clomi i'm in the look for. I didn't know if i should use clomi cuz i already wear contacts and i've heard i messes up w your vision. It is 250 mg so i'm doing the right dose. I'm only doing a 5-6 week cycle for the same reason that it's my first time so i wanted to test it out. Should i go for 12 weeks better?

**magaton** · 07-16-2009, 07:49 PM

Welcome aboard,

do yourself a BIG FAVOR and read every sticky that all the VETS took time to post for all of us newbs. Read them several times over.

Especially Neutrition