Thread: Clomid is making me blind!
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12-20-2002, 12:10 AM #1
Clomid is making me blind!
okay, well not really "blind", but it's fucking up my vision. It's hard to read fine print and drive at night! WTF!! I 'm getting serious tracers like I'm tripping or something. I've been on it for about 10 days ago and have consumed about 24 pilss over that time with the general way of running it:
day-6
day2-2
day3-2
etc......I still have probably another 10 days at 50mg ED....anyone else experience this with Clomid?
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12-20-2002, 12:17 AM #2
I remember hearing about someone else suffering from this, same sort of symptoms, text appearing blurry difficulty driving, I believe they said it went away after they ceased the Clomid. It isn't something I have heard of often though, bump for more replies.
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12-20-2002, 01:33 AM #3
I've heard the same thing...bump for the other opinions...I know it's a must though.
Aragorn
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12-20-2002, 01:39 AM #4New Member
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my good friend ,goes though this... light traces blue sopts etc etc... not shure what he does to help.. but i know your not alone..all i get is teh attitude of a preteen school girl..
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12-20-2002, 07:01 AM #5
that was me you heard about, lol, i thought at the time i had like a brain tumor or something, lol, and then i thought my girlfriends house had a gas leak, kinda freaky stuff, also kinda fun, never new blurred vision/visual disturbances was a side affect of clomid, i only noticed it in higher dose 150mg+ daily, nevertheless a strange side affect...
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12-20-2002, 07:54 AM #6Junior Member
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this shit ain't funny at all. stop the clomid and use nolva instead.
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12-20-2002, 11:52 AM #7Originally posted by KIMBLE
this shit ain't funny at all. stop the clomid and use nolva instead.
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12-20-2002, 11:59 AM #8
relax bro your just trippin
seriously though, i dont know how to cure the little trails. good luck
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12-20-2002, 11:59 AM #9Senior Member
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Originally posted by Big Rush
uh....not happenin' bro, but thanks
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12-20-2002, 03:39 PM #10Member
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Yeah, staying awake will cause serious vision problems...so will dropping a few hits of acid, LMAO
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12-20-2002, 07:17 PM #11
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12-20-2002, 07:52 PM #12Originally posted by KIMBLE
this shit ain't funny at all. stop the clomid and use nolva instead.
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12-20-2002, 08:01 PM #13New Member
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Re: Clomid is making me blind!
Originally posted by Big Rush
okay, well not really "blind", but it's fucking up my vision. It's hard to read fine print and drive at night! WTF!! I 'm getting serious tracers like I'm tripping or something. I've been on it for about 10 days ago and have consumed about 24 pilss over that time with the general way of running it:
day-6
day2-2
day3-2
etc......I still have probably another 10 days at 50mg ED....anyone else experience this with Clomid?
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12-21-2002, 04:32 AM #14
I have posted on this subject before. Both tamoxifen and clomiphene have been shown to cause oculotoxicity. Theses drugs appear to effect the cornea, retina and optic nerve leading to crystalline retinal deposits, macular edema, and corneal changes, even reports of cataracts. The exact mechanism I am not sure of, but may be due to microdeposition/precitation of the drug. These drugs also block chloride channels. Chloride channels in the lens of the eye are seem to be essential for maintaining normal lens hydration and transmittance. One note is that most of these clinical trials were case reports or prospective studies involving women being treated for breast cancer genereally over a long duration of time 1-5 years or >. Some studies indicate that short term toxicity is completely reversible, while others are not so clear. So take it for what it's worth. I couldn't say that switching from one SERM to another would increase or decrease your chance of toxicity, or if short intermittent use would decrease chances of tox either. But we do know the potential is there. Sad but true. I posted the actual studies and could find them if you needed. You could also search medline/ovid if you have access, or just do a general search on the net for tamoxifen+oculotoxicity or clomiphene+oculotoxicity. The data is there ,but it is your decision on how you want to interpret it.
The newer SERM raloxifene, according to some, may be safer in this regard. But remember this drug is new to the market and has not had the chance to have all the post-marketing studies conducted like the older SERMS have. So it would be easy to say raloxifene (Evista) doesn't cause oculotoxicity because the massive post marketing studies have just not been done yet. Sucks because both of these drugs are very useful in our regime.
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