First timer

[Sfla80]

Well i have been reading alot of these posts and have learned alot. I am currently on my second week of my first cycle. Im on Test 400mg and Deca 300mg. First week i took 5cc of each on tuesday and the 5cc each on saturday. Second week im now taking 5cc of each once a week. Test on tuesday and deca on sat. I was using a 5/8" 25 g pin. I have learned that i should be using a 22-23 g and about 2"? I not going to ask alot about the pain because i have seen alot of post about that but im just going to say whats going on. Test isnt bad...deca leaves me in alot of pain for a least 3 days and the area swells. I think im just brusing basiclly. Im not iinfected no heat, no flu systems. I inject slow..deca i have only done in the glutes because im afraid of the pain it will cause anywhere else. If anyone has suggestions or comments maybe i am doing something wrong let me know....but i really would like to know something else....

Is the anything i would do or take that would conteract the deca/test??
Meaning that would anything make these things not work and i get nothing out of taking them?

The other question was dieting. I have always been slim and lean. I am benching 225 3-4 times beginging of the cycle. MY goals from taking this was to gain 30-40 pounds on the bench and else where on my body. I wanna stay around the 180-190 mark for weight though. Should i be taking as much calories i can in a day? Should i still be worried about not eating after 8pm and watching the carb intake that late also?

Thanks for any and all the help

[G4R]

Did you read the part where we always ask for stats?

Stats-
Age?
Height?
Weight?
BF%
Cycle Exp?
PCT Knowlege
Training Exp

[TITANIUM]

I think he's working on it............




I hope!!!!

[TITANIUM]

Well i have been reading alot of these posts and have learned alot. I am currently on my second week of my first cycle. Im on Test 400mg and Deca 300mg. First week i took 5cc of each on tuesday and the 5cc each on saturday. Second week im now taking 5cc of each once a week. Test on tuesday and deca on sat. I was using a 5/8" 25 g pin. I have learned that i should be using a 22-23 g and about 2"? I not going to ask alot about the pain because i have seen alot of post about that but im just going to say whats going on. Test isnt bad...deca leaves me in alot of pain for a least 3 days and the area swells. I think im just brusing basiclly. Im not iinfected no heat, no flu systems. I inject slow..deca i have only done in the glutes because im afraid of the pain it will cause anywhere else. If anyone has suggestions or comments maybe i am doing something wrong let me know....but i really would like to know something else....

Is the anything i would do or take that would conteract the deca/test??
Meaning that would anything make these things not work and i get nothing out of taking the
The other question was dieting. I have always been slim and lean. I am benching 225 3-4 times beginging of the cycle. MY goals from taking this was to gain 30-40 pounds on the bench and else where on my body. I wanna stay around the 180-190 mark for weight though. Should i be taking as much calories i can in a day? Should i still be worried about not eating after 8pm and watching the carb intake that late also?

Thanks for any and all the help

Mix the deca with the test, first.
23G X1-1/2 pins should work fine.

You do know running deca will slam down your natty test levels,right?

You should be running straight test 1st cycle.

Do you have a PCT plan?


How old are you?

[Sfla80]

ok sorry i typed all that for the profile.
29
5-10
168 beginging cycle..now 173
11-12% bf...been like 3 months since last check
Working out for 3 yrs...first 2 though with little knowledge
first time cycleing....been on test boosters but store bought ones
pct knowledge is limited, im thinking its the estrogen blocker the guy who i got this stack from has something that ill get from him in like 4 weeks. Do not know the name though.

[Sfla80]

titanium...do you mean that the deca is a bad mix with test? or only because im a first time user?

[G4R]

We usually recommend Test only for a first cycle for a few reasons. Here is a good thread listing them...

http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...59&postcount=5

[TITANIUM]

Bro,go to the PCT part of the forum and read it.Then if you still have questions, ask away.

Without a proper pct plan that is figured out, you'll loose all your gains.


PCT IS VERY IMPORTANT!

[TITANIUM]

We usually recommend Test only for a first cycle for a few reasons. Here is a good thread listing them...

http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...59&postcount=5

Yes,this is a educational thread.A must read.

Good work Ripped!

[Sfla80]

Ok, so it would be worth it to stop the deca and save it even if i had already used 15cc of it? And would deca be ok by itself if i dont have enough money to stack it after the test is gone?

And the pct isaw on this site...chlomi? Is that a good one? 70mg i believe it said.

Thanks for all the help, i got this stack for free and he told me what he did with it. My knowedge is zero about this.

[G4R]

How far along are you again?

Some guys are willing to run Deca by itself, but I would never recommend it. And espsecially if you are new to all of this.

And I believe you are talking about "Clomid" for your PCT?

[Sfla80]

im on the second week. I guess i should have reserched alot more before taking it. I was too excited when i got it....only thinking about the gains instead of the whole picture. And yes thats what i meant.....forgot how to spell it. And what happens if the injection site gets infected?

[G4R]

This being only the second week, I would personally drop it, IMO. Save it for some other time, but not on its own.

If an injection site gets infected, go to the doctor and let them prescribe you some antibiotics.

[Sfla80]

thanks for the help......deca pain is normal right???

[G4R]

Post injection pain is common. Only be worried if you start to notice an infection, or if you notice any other odd things not clearing up withen a day or two.

[ninesecz]

First week i took 5cc of each on tuesday and the 5cc each on saturday. Second week im now taking 5cc of each once a week. Test on tuesday and deca on sat. I was using a 5/8" 25 g pin. I have learned that i should be using a 22-23 g


Does anyone see that he is using 5cc of each compound per week or did you all over look that? How can you be on 500mg a week using 5cc a week? Either you ae using 100mg/ml Test propoinate and doing it completely wrong, Or it is dosed at 200-250mg/ml Test E and you are running 1000-1500mg a week! What exactly is oing on here!! and I have never even heard of a 2" needle! WTF??

[ninesecz]

Yeh So you are using 2000mg a week of Test and 1500mg of Deca a week? Are you Nuts!! Good going everyone who posted up til this point! Still answering this guys questions and giving him advice but obviously not reading his post to even know what he is doing!! Smarten up Everybody! this guy is not even doing his injections correctly, let alone doing 4-5X as much as he should be each week! Should this not be addressed first or am I mistaken!!

[G4R]

First week i took 5cc of each on tuesday and the 5cc each on saturday. Second week im now taking 5cc of each once a week. Test on tuesday and deca on sat. I was using a 5/8" 25 g pin. I have learned that i should be using a 22-23 g


Does anyone see that he is using 5cc of each compound per week or did you all over look that? How can you be on 500mg a week using 5cc a week? Either you ae using 100mg/ml Test propoinate and doing it completely wrong, Or it is dosed at 200-250mg/ml Test E and you are running 1000-1500mg a week! What exactly is oing on here!! and I have never even heard of a 2" needle! WTF??

Good point. I did completly overlook that.....

[ninesecz]

With how long you have been here and your post count it would seem you would read a little better and not just ramble off advice without knowing what that advice might do! My god he shot as much in one week on his FIRST CYCLE as I will use in my first 8 weeks of my cycle.
This guy is going to have is blood levels all whacked out and is going to screw himself up big time! e a little more careful!

[G4R]

Your right. I apologize to you ninesecz, I apologize to you goode80. I got ahead of myself, didn't even notice the part you are talking about...

I am sorry.

[seriousmass]

With how long you have been here and your post count it would seem you would read a little better and not just ramble off advice without knowing what that advice might do! My god he shot as much in one week on his FIRST CYCLE as I will use in my first 8 weeks of my cycle.
This guy is going to have is blood levels all whacked out and is going to screw himself up big time! e a little more careful!

why don't you wait for the OP to respond back. You're making a LOT of assumptions right now. For all you know he may be using Mexican Veterinary Gear (IE) [Deca @ ~50mg / mL & Test @ ~75mg / mL] It's very possible.

[ninesecz]

why don't you wait for the OP to respond back. You're making a LOT of assumptions right now. For all you know he may be using Mexican Veterinary Gear (IE) [Deca @ ~50mg / mL & Test @ ~75mg / mL] It's very possible.

Ae all Canadians as Fu c K I n G Dumb as you?/ I did not realize how big of a moron you really were! I should have know from your litle Avy and a name like serious mass! Can I ask... Where is the serious mass you speak of!
It says right in the post it is test 400 and deca 300! so how could it be mexican 75mg/ml! another case of not reading! Go Away!!

[Mooseman33]

and yes, all canadians dumb...

maybe not on the level of serious, but as a whole country, there dumb.....

[diesel405]

Ae all Canadians as Fu c K I n G Dumb as you?/ I did not realize how big of a moron you really were! I should have know from your litle Avy and a name like serious mass! Can I ask... Where is the serious mass you speak of!
It says right in the post it is test 400 and deca 300! so how could it be mexican 75mg/ml! another case of not reading! Go Away!!

wow nine, fu**ing brilliant! You speak the truth. I wish i could come up with this s**t!! LO fu**ing L

[NS]

Good Work ninesecz.

[aaron1mix]

Ae all Canadians as Fu c K I n G Dumb as you?/ I did not realize how big of a moron you really were! I should have know from your litle Avy and a name like serious mass! Can I ask... Where is the serious mass you speak of!
It says right in the post it is test 400 and deca 300! so how could it be mexican 75mg/ml! another case of not reading! Go Away!!

LMFAO!! Wish I would have been in here earlier. I'm glad you said it. That was the first red flag that popped up when I read his post. You had just already responded.

[Aodha]

My 2 cents; I use 1" needle, 23g, 3ml syringe. Works perfect!

[-Ender-]

My 2 cents; I use 1" needle, 23g, 3ml syringe. Works perfect!

........sigh.

To the OP:
GOODE80, Please post your current condition and any corrections to your original post when you log in please.

[Sfla80]

First off like i said im new to all this and this was a typo anyways.i am sorry. So the bottle of test is 400mg and the deca is 300mg. If i was taking that much in on my first cycle i would probablly have a heart attack dontyou think? lol. I meant to say i am taking .5cc each injection. one time each a week. I was starting slow at first. I am probablly doing it worng thats why i am here. But its hard getting right advice i guess over the internet. I appriciate any and all help from you guys.

[Sfla80]

and i think its from a pharmacy here in florida...not sure where it ws made.

[T-MOS]

OK, so you are taking

200 mgs of Test and 150 mgs of Deca Once or twice a week?

for how long are you gonna do this?

What do you have for PCT?

Is the Test a blend or just one ester?

[seriousmass]

why don't you wait for the OP to respond back. You're making a LOT of assumptions right now. For all you know he may be using Mexican Veterinary Gear (IE) [Deca @ ~50mg / mL & Test @ ~75mg / mL] It's very possible.

.....

Ae all Canadians as Fu c K I n G Dumb as you?/ I did not realize how big of a moron you really were! I should have know from your litle Avy and a name like serious mass! Can I ask... Where is the serious mass you speak of!
It says right in the post it is test 400 and deca 300! so how could it be mexican 75mg/ml! another case of not reading! Go Away!!

....

First off like i said im new to all this and this was a typo anyways.i am sorry. So the bottle of test is 400mg and the deca is 300mg. If i was taking that much in on my first cycle i would probablly have a heart attack dontyou think? lol. I meant to say i am taking .5cc each injection. one time each a week. I was starting slow at first. I am probablly doing it worng thats why i am here. But its hard getting right advice i guess over the internet. I appriciate any and all help from you guys.

HAHAHAHAHA. f*ck are all you American's so quick to jump to conclusions?? OH, wait! you all are **cough cough "war on terror" **cough cough** LOL

Stop trying to act all hardcore you moron, oh and get off your high horse. Any educated person instantly could tell that their was either:
a.) info missing from the OP's post
b.) a typo in it

Why don't you just head back into the lounge, and create a couple more useless threads about how your favorite sexual position (like you ever get any)

I also think it's HILARIOUS how you made a f*cking thread trying to slam going4ripped's advice. look man, NO ONE wants to read about your un-educated, discriminatory, and ridiculous thoughts.

Get a life, and in the meantime get a brain.... not to mention some better cars, judging from your avatar I can tell you that my 16 year old SISTER'S car is more expensive then the 3 cars you're repping combined. HAHAHAHAHA

It's sad to see, first hand, the downfalls of America's education system... damn you boys are stupid.

[T-MOS]

SeriousAss, I suggest you go somewhere else. I am tired of seeing you flame members in the Q&A

if you are not in this thread to help the OP, then you do not need to be here. If you have a problem with a member, then take it to PM's not open forums. Haven't you been warned enough??

[Matt]

Ok guy's before another thread turns to shit can we keep the arguments to pm's..

For the sake of the op and the board..

[seriousmass]

and yes, all canadians dumb...

maybe not on the level of serious, but as a whole country, there dumb.....

Do you realize how many grammatical, and structural errors you made in those two phrases? (I can't even call them sentences, because neither are at the level of a complete thought). I'm sorry, but you lose 100% of your credibility when you're unable to spell the word "there"... aka THEIR correctly.

And I must be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure The United States of American currently hosts one of the WORST educational systems on Earth... and isn't Canada ranked in the top 10... Hmmm... I must be wrong though, right?

dummmmmmbbbassssssssssss.

[T-MOS]

sorry for the Typo. I meant to type seriousmass, not seriousAss

[seriousmass]

SeriousAss, I suggest you go somewhere else. I am tired of seeing you flame members in the Q&A

if you are not in this thread to help the OP, then you do not need to be here. If you have a problem with a member, then take it to PM's not open forums. Haven't you been warned enough??

Read my OP, and then read Nine's response. Who do you think is being more reasonable? Admin can review the thread if they want.. I didn't say ANYTHING rude. I was simply stating he might want to wait before jumping to ridiculous, illogical conclusions.

[T-MOS]

Read my OP, and then read Nine's response. Who do you think is being more reasonable? Admin can review the thread if they want.. I didn't say ANYTHING rude. I was simply stating he might want to wait before jumping to ridiculous, illogical conclusions.

yeaaaaa, i read your posts and thats why I posted what I did. I did find your name calling and comments FLAMING !!

Now, stop, and take anything else to PM. Admin WILL be reviewing this

[Matt]

Enough already

Let the op have his thread back..

[seriousmass]

yeaaaaa, i read your posts and thats why I posted what I did. I did find your name calling and comments FLAMING !!

Now, stop, and take anything else to PM. Admin WILL be reviewing this

Sounds good. Thanks for notifying him/her.