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    Thumbs up Masteron E vs Proviron on cycle, Mg to Mg

    I'm currently running Masteron E at 520mg throughout my maiden Test E cycle of 300mg weekly.

    However, I've read that oral Proviron has very similar effects. From those who've experienced both, how do they differ on cycle both dosed at say 525mg weekly?

    I've seen great hardness, libido, density, and a drying effect thus far in this recomp cycle.

    If the effects are similiar I can stack another compound in Masteron's place and simply use oral Proviron (Less oil in injections)

    Any word on this?

    Thanks.

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    nope

    not close

    its made to be orally active. so its weaker per mg ratio to masteron . and to run 525 mg of proviron would suck.

    masteron is better for the results youve already seen... hardness, density, drying, strength

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    +2 Masteron E compared to proviron is not even a fair comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancer View Post
    +2 Masteron E compared to proviron is not even a fair comparison.

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    Sup dukky


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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    nope

    not close

    its made to be orally active. so its weaker per mg ratio to masteron . and to run 525 mg of proviron would suck.

    masteron is better for the results youve already seen... hardness, density, drying, strength
    Okay, I was going to dose Proviron at 75mg ED (525mg weekly) but it sounds like there's no comparison.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dancer View Post
    +2 Masteron E compared to proviron is not even a fair comparison.
    Just curious, but since I have about 300 (25mg) tabs of Schering Proviron, would it hurt anything by running it alongside Masteron E on cycle?

    Too much DHT or fine with no issues?

    Thanks for the quick responses.

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    you can take the proviron with it. id do 50mg a day

    it wont make too much of a difference in terms of gains but it wont hurt

    watch your hair

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    DO you like your hair line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancer View Post
    DO you like your hair line?
    I shave it anyway so no worries.

    To be honest, I'm on a HEAVY DHT run right now and haven't really noticed any changes like that.

    Test E - 300mg Wkly
    Masteron E - 600mg Wkly
    Anavar - 100mg ED
    Winny - 60mg ED
    Aromasin - 25mg ED

    My orals overlap by about 10 days, but even still... No issues.

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    LOl I shave mine too.

    I dont think you are gonna see mucha' difference if you run it. But, get your rocks off and see if does. Sounds like your heart set on it...LOL

    DHT King-lean1038

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancer View Post
    LOl I shave mine too.

    I dont think you are gonna see mucha' difference if you run it. But, get your rocks off and see if does. Sounds like your heart set on it...LOL

    DHT King-lean1038
    Haha! I know, thanks man. I'm loving this Winny though. I saw veins appear in my upper and lower abs on my THIRD DAY!

    Call me crazy, but I'm considering a Primo, Masteron E, Test E cycle for next year.

    Kickstarting with T Bol and closing with Winny.

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    Try tren crazy, about the only time I think winny is useful is with tren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancer View Post
    Try tren crazy, about the only time I think winny is useful is with tren.
    I'm tempted, very tempted as I'm sitting on 40ml of good clean Tren E 200, but everyone keeps telling me not to for a second cycle.

    What if I low dose though? Maybe 200-300mg wkly with 300mg of Test E?

    I have legit 1mg Dostinex Tabs and Pramipexole already on hand.

    I hear Tren is the king of cutting agents on a good diet.

    Any thoughts?

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    you say everyone tells you not to run tren for 2nd

    well that cycle your runnin now is too much for a 2nd

    and youd probably see better results just from tren and test

    instead of all those other compounds your on now

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    you say everyone tells you not to run tren for 2nd

    well that cycle your runnin now is too much for a 2nd

    and youd probably see better results just from tren and test

    instead of all those other compounds your on now
    From what I understood, Masteron E is more of an "Icing agent" as it cleans up the Test in a cycle and doesn't have any side effects such as aromatization, similar to an Anti E on cycle which is why I chose it.

    Anavar is/was the biggest waste of money I've ever spent for 60 days @ 100mg. Honestly, I've had far better results from $50 worth of H Drol.

    However, this Winny is great and I really only saw gains from the low dose of Test (300) and the Winny.

    I wanted to go light on my first, but now that I know how things go, I want to step it up a bit that's all.

    It sounds like Tren/Test might be the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    From what I understood, Masteron E is more of an "Icing agent" as it cleans up the Test in a cycle and doesn't have any side effects such as aromatization, similar to an Anti E on cycle which is why I chose it.

    Anavar is/was the biggest waste of money I've ever spent for 60 days @ 100mg. Honestly, I've had far better results from $50 worth of H Drol.

    However, this Winny is great and I really only saw gains from the low dose of Test (300) and the Winny.

    I wanted to go light on my first, but now that I know how things go, I want to step it up a bit that's all.

    It sounds like Tren/Test might be the way to go.
    im not scolding you. im just sayin... most ppl would say that this cycle is too much for 2nd. so why cry about tren next time. do it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    im not scolding you. im just sayin... most ppl would say that this cycle is too much for 2nd. so why cry about tren next time. do it.

    Very true, I like the way you think. Haha!

    Any dosage recommendations for 10 weeks of Tren E alongside 12 weeks of Test E @ 300mg?

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    75mg tren a ED

    Transition to tren e if you are not having sides with the tren a

    I am with dukky that cycle you got there is not a cycle meant for the faint of heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancer View Post
    75mg tren a ED

    Transition to tren e if you are not having sides with the tren a

    I am with dukky that cycle you got there is not a cycle meant for the faint of heart.
    agree

    500-525 mg a week of tren

    keep the test at 300 or 350

    good to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    agree

    500-525 mg a week of tren

    keep the test at 300 or 350

    good to go
    Wow, that much? Really? I thought 400mg was on the high side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    Wow, that much? Really? I thought 400mg was on the high side?
    of tren ? no

    500 is on the moderate high side

    and 700 or more is def high

    but since your test dose will be lower

    youll get less sides from tren

    and inturn can run the tren higher

    if your gonna be a baby then do 400

    no less though

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    50mg ed is the lowest I would say anyone tries. 50mg aint shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post
    of tren ? no

    500 is on the moderate high side

    and 700 or more is def high

    but since your test dose will be lower

    youll get less sides from tren

    and inturn can run the tren higher

    if your gonna be a baby then do 400

    no less though
    Very true... Okay, 400mg it is.

    I just want to test the waters with it first and I can always bump to 500mg the next time around or run it with Masteron E.

    Thanks a lot guys!

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