how long does winny take harden yer up?

**tigeredge** · 08-12-2009, 02:59 PM

how many days before i notice extra muscle hardness and definition. i know the muscle and strength gains take a bit

**Dancer** · 08-12-2009, 03:00 PM

what your diet and bf% and lifting and age?

**tigeredge** · 08-12-2009, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dancer

what your diet and bf% and lifting and age?

8 % at most. been told by one measurement that i am 5 which i think is crap. but imn pretty ripped. my diet is now a high protein 250-300 gram low gi carb diet, 50-100 gram diet (intake is rotated)

i am amiming for lean mass. on mg 500 mg of tren en, 500mg of prop. just added equipose (600 mg a week)

i do HIT bag work 4-5 times a week. do proper HIIT three times

**roserose** · 08-12-2009, 04:24 PM

About 2 weeks for me.

**Ashop** · 08-12-2009, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by tigeredge

how many days before i notice extra muscle hardness and definition. i know the muscle and strength gains take a bit

Your diet will have to be dialed in. And up your protein intake.

**tigeredge** · 08-13-2009, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by ****

Your diet will have to be dialed in. And up your protein intake.

will eating mostly low gi carbs help a lot?

**Lean1038** · 08-13-2009, 02:00 PM

I noticed freaky definition on day 3 and on. No joke and very effective for me @ 60mg ED.

**roserose** · 08-13-2009, 03:15 PM

I agree you can see results very quickly.

**scarass** · 08-13-2009, 03:24 PM

I dont agree! Im done with some cycle with winny. My experience is that it takes about one month to see results. What u see after few days can be the diet.

**Dancer** · 08-13-2009, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by tigeredge

8 % at most. been told by one measurement that i am 5 which i think is crap. but imn pretty ripped. my diet is now a high protein 250-300 gram low gi carb diet, 50-100 gram diet (intake is rotated)

i am amiming for lean mass. on mg 500 mg of tren en, 500mg of prop. just added equipose (600 mg a week)

i do HIT bag work 4-5 times a week. do proper HIIT three times

Say you through in 50mg ED thats 350mg week... You already have 1600mg of androgens...

Its like this you got this big ass bonn fire shooting flames 30 feet into the air and you are throughing in a few pieced of wood...

Winny will make little to no noticable difference in that stack...

I been on so much shit before I didnt know what aas was doing what.

I save the winny for some other cycle IMHO

**Lean1038** · 08-14-2009, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by scarass

I dont agree! Im done with some cycle with winny. My experience is that it takes about one month to see results. What u see after few days can be the diet.

Considering my diet has been sustained since the beginning of my cycle, I'll have to disagree with you bro.

Everybody's different and supps always hit me quickly... Especially Winny it seems.