My 1st Cycle Advice

**Karbonn** · 08-24-2009, 07:40 PM

Like the post says totally new with gear.

After a long time trying to even find some, I finally recieved it and yes I way overpaid but at least its a start. Im pretty sure I paid double the going rate.

My stats 36 year old male. 5'8 195lbs. No known medical issues. I am not looking for massive signs gains. Looking to add some size and upper body strength with definition.

Only thing I am currently taking are protien shakes trying to be around 175g of protien a day. Have cut out all fast food and alcohol in preperation for the cycle. Eating very lean mainly green fruits frish and chicken.

What I have available

Winstrol 25 (Stanozolol ) 60ML xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
25mg/1ml

Cypionate 300 10ML xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
300mg Test Cyp /1ml

Boldenone 300 10ML
300mg/1ml

I realize this is not enough for any long cycle but that is fine with me. Looking to keep it between 6 and 8 weeks

Havent taken any of it yet. Ordered **** today wont arrive till Thur.

Would like some advise on how to stack these and PCT also should I take anything during the cycle?

Any and all advise will be appreciated.

(I accidentally posted this in the PCT section, I guess its not too bad since I am also seeking PCT advice but shows im new here my apologies in advance)

**jason bourne** · 08-24-2009, 07:49 PM

ok well first of all please post your diet in the diet forum and have the gurus look at it but what is your bf% at 5'8 195lbs cause thats pretty thick for your size but the cycle you are asking about is horrible not to be rude but running cyp for that short of time is not the best idea as your results wont be nearly as much if it were a longer cycle and taken correctly

**CMonkey** · 08-24-2009, 07:51 PM

What is your training experience?

Your diet needs to be more detailed in its layout.

For a first cycle it is suggested that it is a test only cycle, to find out how your body will react. Then in future cycles when you start stacking other compunds and sides appear, you will know if they are caused by the test or the others.

You don't have enough gear for a cycle. Test C does not start to kick in until around week 5. The cycle should be ran for a minimum of 10 weeks, optimally 12 weeks is what you want.

**Juturna** · 08-24-2009, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Karbonn

Like the post says totally new with gear.

After a long time trying to even find some, I finally recieved it and yes I way overpaid but at least its a start. Im pretty sure I paid double the going rate.

My stats 36 year old male. 5'8 195lbs. No known medical issues. I am not looking for massive signs gains. Looking to add some size and upper body strength with definition.

Only thing I am currently taking are protien shakes trying to be around 175g of protien a day. Have cut out all fast food and alcohol in preperation for the cycle. Eating very lean mainly green fruits frish and chicken.

What I have available

Winstrol 25 (Stanozolol ) 60ML
25mg/1ml

Cypionate 300 10ML
300mg Test Cyp /1ml

Boldenone 300 10ML
300mg/1ml

I realize this is not enough for any long cycle but that is fine with me. Looking to keep it between 6 and 8 weeks

Havent taken any of it yet. Ordered **** today wont arrive till Thur.

Would like some advise on how to stack these and PCT also should I take anything during the cycle?

Any and all advise will be appreciated.

(I accidentally posted this in the PCT section, I guess its not too bad since I am also seeking PCT advice but shows im new here my apologies in advance)

A few things buddy - obviously hold off on the cycle until we get you situated. I'll go step-by-step with you so bear with me.

Age; 36
Height; 5'8
Weight; 195lbs
BF%; ?
Training Exp: ?

Please post your exact diet - diet is far more important on a cycle. AAS doesn't make you big on it's own so please be specific. Post macros for each meal.

Macros= Calories, Protein, Carbs, Fat.

**jason bourne** · 08-24-2009, 08:02 PM

you gotta be brutally honest about the diet it will only help out in the long run these guys will hook you up and give you their honest opinion on what to do listen to em i do haha

**ninesecz** · 08-24-2009, 08:04 PM

please edit the thread! can not post lab names on this board! Thank You

**Juturna** · 08-24-2009, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

please edit the thread! can not post lab names on this board! Thank You

Missed that.. tisk tisk.

**ninesecz** · 08-24-2009, 08:11 PM

You can not run a long ester like cypionate for 6-8 weeks! You will get absolutely no gains from This. This also goes for the Deca which is Decanoate which is a longer ester than cypionate. To be honest you will get a little increased sex drive for a few weeks and that is it. Cypionate Enanthate and Deconaote esters all need to be ran for at least 10 weeks..and that is touchy. 12 is the actual correct length with these esters. You should have done a little more research before purchasing this. I know you are not looking to hear this.. but to run an 8 weeks cycle of test E and Deca is really going to do nothing for you but put a hole in your wallet. You might notice a couple weeks worth of strength and size, but as soon as you feel it, it is going to be over.

**Karbonn** · 08-24-2009, 08:46 PM

Edited the post to remove lab name sorry did not know.

Juturna can I pm you the infor you requested? Since you offered to walk my dumb ass through it

**Juturna** · 08-24-2009, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Karbonn

Edited the post to remove lab name sorry did not know.

Juturna can I pm you the infor you requested? Since you offered to walk my dumb ass through it

You don't have enough posts on the board to PM... We can go step-by-step through open board no problem.

Post in the diet forum exactly what I asked for. The link is; http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

**Karbonn** · 08-24-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by ninesecz

You can not run a long ester like cypionate for 6-8 weeks! You will get absolutely no gains from This. This also goes for the Deca which is Decanoate which is a longer ester than cypionate. To be honest you will get a little increased sex drive for a few weeks and that is it. Cypionate Enanthate and Deconaote esters all need to be ran for at least 10 weeks..and that is touchy. 12 is the actual correct length with these esters. You should have done a little more research before purchasing this. I know you are not looking to hear this.. but to run an 8 weeks cycle of test E and Deca is really going to do nothing for you but put a hole in your wallet. You might notice a couple weeks worth of strength and size, but as soon as you feel it, it is going to be over.

I appreciate your feedback it may not be what I WANT to hear but it is what I NEED to hear.

It took me almost to years to even get a reliable source. Hole in the wallet yeah i paid double what some sites say they should of run. I can hopefully get another order of the test.

**vaders4** · 08-24-2009, 09:26 PM

Hey Juturna can you edit your quote? it still has the lab names in your quote.

**Juturna** · 08-24-2009, 09:28 PM

^ Good call... thx

PT · 08-25-2009, 02:42 AM

thanx guys

**!!!ZeuS!!!** · 08-25-2009, 02:55 AM

oh shit ninesecz that pictuer ouch!!!!!! that is well i messed my pants..

test only first cycle mate

**Juturna** · 08-25-2009, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by !!!ZeuS!!!

oh shit ninesecz that pictuer ouch!!!!!! that is well i messed my pants..

test only first cycle mate

Why are you telling him to take a Test only cycle Zeus? He isn't even ready for that - don't give poor advice.

**!!!ZeuS!!!** · 08-26-2009, 02:09 AM

he's got the gear already so its in his mind to do it. it'd be better if he did a test only cycle than jabbing all that winny with stuff all test. better off giving a little advice and him do a test only cycle than giving no advice and him getting jacked up with a bad cycle and his next post would be need help did something stupid