Test, Masteron & Tren

**ROIDSR4ME** · 08-25-2009, 07:48 PM

Ok my next cycle I am planning is going to be Test, Masteron & Tren still deciding on the dosaages (been on hgh also for the last 3 months).

My question is since Masteron does not convert to estrogen & it actually helps with it. Do I still need to include Liquidex in my cycle to help with estrogen control??

Stats
Age 26 in a couple of weeks
Weight 205
Body fat-last time I checked it was at 13%
Cycles- 5 cycles so far

**MR10X** · 08-25-2009, 08:00 PM

Im thinking of doing the same cycle except just use masteron and tren and no test. The masteron should be enough androgen to keep your libido up and just reap the benifits of the tren. If you use test you might need an AI to keep the estrogen down and maby some nolvadex to stop gyno depending on how much test you use. Since the tren is the most powerful compound i want to keep it as much tren as i can stand. I will start wth 50mg ED and see how i tolerate that and then increase if i can. What im saying is i dont want to dilute the tren with weaker compounds.

**InsaneInTheMembrane** · 08-25-2009, 11:01 PM

what is ur test dosage? that will determine if u should keep an AI on hand

**ROIDSR4ME** · 08-26-2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by MR10X

Im thinking of doing the same cycle except just use masteron and tren and no test. The masteron should be enough androgen to keep your libido up and just reap the benifits of the tren. If you use test you might need an AI to keep the estrogen down and maby some nolvadex to stop gyno depending on how much test you use. Since the tren is the most powerful compound i want to keep it as much tren as i can stand. I will start wth 50mg ED and see how i tolerate that and then increase if i can. What im saying is i dont want to dilute the tren with weaker compounds.

I think you should still include test in your cycle, I may be mistaken but I think Masteron still shuts you down a little bit. Would hate for you friend down there to not work....

**ROIDSR4ME** · 08-26-2009, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane

what is ur test dosage? that will determine if u should keep an AI on hand

I think I am going to do around 500 or 600mg on this cycle......

**redz** · 08-26-2009, 11:25 AM

Also depends if you have had problems in past cycles.

**ROIDSR4ME** · 08-26-2009, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by redz

Also depends if you have had problems in past cycles.

No real problems in past cycles with estrogen... So I am assuming that the masteron should be sufficient??

**redz** · 08-26-2009, 11:33 AM

As long as you just keep something on hand in case that should be sufficient. I always keep caber on hand with tren myself but thats just my own preference.

**ROIDSR4ME** · 08-26-2009, 11:41 AM

I have used tren once before & no real problems.. I was thinking of getting some caber for this cycle but it is so freakin expensive. Most people on here say the liquid form is garbage so really not for sure on that yet.

**marcus300** · 08-26-2009, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ROIDSR4ME

I have used tren once before & no real problems.. I was thinking of getting some caber for this cycle but it is so freakin expensive. Most people on here say the liquid form is garbage so really not for sure on that yet.

Yes get some caber it will help issues and aid the sides regarding the tren , I love that stack and ive done it many times, the size and condition what can be obtained is feaky!!

**ROIDSR4ME** · 08-26-2009, 01:29 PM

I can get some caber but the only thing I can find is the liquid, so is that just a waste?

**marcus300** · 08-26-2009, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by ROIDSR4ME

I can get some caber but the only thing I can find is the liquid, so is that just a waste?

No its fine, shoot me a pm and give me the details.

**waleedy2k** · 08-26-2009, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by ROIDSR4ME

Ok my next cycle I am planning is going to be Test, Masteron & Tren still deciding on the dosaages (been on hgh also for the last 3 months).

My question is since Masteron does not convert to estrogen & it actually helps with it. Do I still need to include Liquidex in my cycle to help with estrogen control??

Stats
Age 26 in a couple of weeks
Weight 205
Body fat-last time I checked it was at 13%
Cycles- 5 cycles so far

drop masteron, its only good for below 10% bf

**ROIDSR4ME** · 08-26-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by waleedy2k

drop masteron, its only good for below 10% bf

I have to disagree with that statement... I have used masteron in the past without the tren with my around 13% BF and had pretty good results. Guess it just affects everyone’s body differently.

**MR10X** · 08-26-2009, 02:58 PM

The thing about masteron is it doesnt convert to estrogen and also binds very well to the SHBG protiens so it will act mostly on the sexual side of things. The tren also binds extremely well to the AR's much better than test itself. If it doesnt work out as expected i have plenty of Test Suspension and Test E. And Cialis....

**MR10X** · 08-26-2009, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by waleedy2k

drop masteron, its only good for below 10% bf

Depends on what you want to accomplish.If your getting in contest shape it will make you look harder,if your trying to gain size it will help to keep your compounds work better by letting them bind better to the AR's.

**chrisebpos** · 08-26-2009, 03:07 PM

I'm currently running test pro, masteron and tren . 2 shots deep. I'm also worried about prolactin issues with tren. Running 300 mgs of all compounds a week. Should I run nolva just in case

**chrisebpos** · 08-26-2009, 03:08 PM

I'm not trying to get crazy either. I've had estrogen issues in the past

**marcus300** · 08-26-2009, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by chrisebpos

I'm currently running test pro, masteron and tren. 2 shots deep. I'm also worried about prolactin issues with tren. Running 300 mgs of all compounds a week. Should I run nolva just in case

No caber

**ROIDSR4ME** · 08-26-2009, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

The thing about masteron is it doesnt convert to estrogen and also binds very well to the SHBG protiens so it will act mostly on the sexual side of things. The tren also binds extremely well to the AR's much better than test itself. If it doesnt work out as expected i have plenty of Test Suspension and Test E. And Cialis....

Why not just include a trt dose of test e to keep your "friend" working? My first cycle was tren only (please don't flame I didn't know better). That shut me down very hard, the gf at the time didn't like it to well... Very good gains though, but sex life sucked lol.....Better safe than sorry on that situation....

**MR10X** · 08-26-2009, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by ROIDSR4ME

Why not just include a trt dose of test e to keep your "friend" working? My first cycle was tren only (please don't flame I didn't know better). That shut me down very hard, the gf at the time didn't like it to well... Very good gains though, but sex life sucked lol.....Better safe than sorry on that situation....

Masteron is test,just a different type called DHT:

One possible use for MASTERON during the off-season, when gaining mass, may be DHT's affinity for the binding proteins of sex steroids : sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and albumin. Normally a large amount of testosterone cannot be used by the body in anabolic functions because it is mostly bound to these plasma proteins. When testosterone is administered along with a DHT-compound, the DHT will take up most of the protein and allow the testosterone to exert its massive anabolic effects, thereby increasing the possible gains, especially in lower doses. Of course, due to the limited availability of MASTERON and its high price, this is the type of situation one usually resorts to mesterolone (1-methyl-DHT as in proviron ) for. Its cheaper and equally effective to serve this particular purpose (but notably weaker in other aspects, since like DHT its readily deactivated in muscle tissue by the 3-alpha-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme).
And in my case it will let the Tren do its job better.

**ROIDSR4ME** · 08-26-2009, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by MR10X

Masteron is test,just a different type called DHT:

One possible use for MASTERON during the off-season, when gaining mass, may be DHT's affinity for the binding proteins of sex steroids : sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and albumin. Normally a large amount of testosterone cannot be used by the body in anabolic functions because it is mostly bound to these plasma proteins. When testosterone is administered along with a DHT-compound, the DHT will take up most of the protein and allow the testosterone to exert its massive anabolic effects, thereby increasing the possible gains, especially in lower doses. Of course, due to the limited availability of MASTERON and its high price, this is the type of situation one usually resorts to mesterolone (1-methyl-DHT as in proviron ) for. Its cheaper and equally effective to serve this particular purpose (but notably weaker in other aspects, since like DHT its readily deactivated in muscle tissue by the 3-alpha-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme).
And in my case it will let the Tren do its job better.