Bulking cycle

**tsjca213** · 08-29-2009, 08:26 AM

Hi, im 6'1, weigh 200 pounds with 8% bodyfat or less, now the summer is fading and i want to make a good off season this year. I have done some stupid cycles in the past with little gains so i want to make a change and do some research. I eat 50% carbs 35% proteins and 15% fat, just clean calories, i try to make 4000 cals a day but usually i eat less, but not that less. I don't know alot about the science behind steroids so i hope i can get some good feedback.

If i should do it longer, shorter, change up dosage, anything, let me know, this is just a sugestion with poor backround, i want to make some decent gains.

Week 1-14 Deca 500mg
Week 1-12 Test Propionate 600mg
Week 1-4 Anavar 50mg ed

About pct
I allready have some tits, i'm going to have surgury somewhere in the future, but until then i don't want them any bigger.
I get very bloated very easily so that's why i chose anavar, i don't know if it's a good idea, you tell me.

If i could do the pct i found here on the site:

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

I would use it without the nolvadex, because of the gyno side, as someone replied to that pct post.

I don't know when to start the pct, please tell

**Matt** · 08-29-2009, 08:30 AM

Just for starters How old are you???

You should never run the deca longer than the test...

**redz** · 08-29-2009, 08:31 AM

Ok I see some big problems with your cycle.......

Deca should be stopped 2 weeks prior to test stoping to ensure proper sexual function. Why are you running short estered test with a long estered steroids ? why not use prop/npp or test enanthate with deca? If you don`t understand the science behind steroids or how they work you are not going to maximize what you can get out of them. You need to do more research. I would add clomid to that pct too.

I just noticed you said you already had tits, you should run a strong ai through the whole cycle for sure to prevent it from getting worse. Over all it just doesnt look like you should be cycling.

**sigman roid** · 08-29-2009, 08:35 AM

As 007 said(i hate saying 007 matt)you should not be running the deca longer than your test bad idea if you got gyno all ready i personally would be careful with deca make sure you have a AI on hand in case you need it

**Matt** · 08-29-2009, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by sigman roid

As 007 said(i hate saying 007 matt)you should not be running the deca longer than your test bad idea if you got gyno all ready i personally would be careful with deca make sure you have a AI on hand in case you need it

Lmao, you can call me Matt lol, anyone else please stick to 007 or Mr Bond...

**stpete** · 08-29-2009, 08:37 AM

That's a poor cycle that needs some tweeking for sure. And you need to get that gyno taken care of.

**Dont wanna be old** · 08-29-2009, 08:41 AM

Your statement saying you have tits is concerning .

How old are you ?
How many cycle's have you done ?
How long have you trained ?

You will need a anti-estrogen and possibly a anti-progesterone .

Test needs to be ran longer than deca .

Have you tried anything lately to bring down your gyno ?

**hankdiesel** · 08-29-2009, 08:48 AM

Poor cycle and weak pct.

**Gaspari1255** · 08-29-2009, 08:50 AM

Anavar would be just about my last choice of kick starts for a bulking cycle

**TITANIUM** · 08-29-2009, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by tsjca213

Hi, im 6'1, weigh 200 pounds with 8% bodyfat or less, now the summer is fading and i want to make a good off season this year. I have done some stupid cycles in the past with little gains so i want to make a change and do some research. I eat 50% carbs 35% proteins and 15% fat, just clean calories, i try to make 4000 cals a day but usually i eat less, but not that less. I don't know alot about the science behind steroids so i hope i can get some good feedback.

If i should do it longer, shorter, change up dosage, anything, let me know, this is just a sugestion with poor backround, i want to make some decent gains.

Week 1-14 Deca 500mg
Week 1-12 Test Propionate 600mg
Week 1-4 Anavar 50mg ed

About pct
I allready have some tits, i'm going to have surgury somewhere in the future, but until then i don't want them any bigger.
I get very bloated very easily so that's why i chose anavar, i don't know if it's a good idea, you tell me.

If i could do the pct i found here on the site:

Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day
I would use it without the nolvadex, because of the gyno side, as someone replied to that pct post.

I don't know when to start the pct, please tell

I underlined things that jump out at me.

PCT starts 2 weeks after your last test shot.

3 weeks after your last deca shot.

The way you list your PCT start dates is confusing.

Start times, does wk 1 = end of cycle time?(1=wk 16)

Deca, cut it short 2 wks before test.

I would add clomid to your regiment.

Also, get rid of your gyno first IMO.

A.dex would be run at .25 mgs ed, in your pre disposition to gyno.

Diet can be tweaked.

Post diet in the diet section.

In closing, read and learn some more about what and how to administer these compounds.

I would also recommend some blood work.

Best

Titanium

**tsjca213** · 08-29-2009, 11:25 AM

Seems like i presented things the wrong way, i'll start over. I'm 21, my height, weight and diet is allready written.
First i have to say that none of the information i wrote was ment to be a cycle in any way, i just tried to make a picture of what i'd had in mind for substances and duration.
The pct i posted was copied from Steroid.com's PCT
I didn't know how to read it, so i tried to ask you guys.
I wrote anavar just as an indicator to that bloat is not wanted.
I could struggle for a long time with my english writing about how long i've trained, how serious i am and how much i know about this and that, i'm not gonna do it. I have read alot about steroids over the years, and i still can't set together a stack, i just get confused by reading so many different things from person to person. All i know is that i'd like some deca and test and something to prevent gyno and bloat.
Bloodtest? Ok, i will do that too, thanks for saying.