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    Sust 300mg/1ml Cycle

    Just wanted to post my cycle and get some review and opinions on it...

    I have a few vials of Sustanon 300mg/1ml and decided its time to use them.. Ive previously had a cycle that was ( HGH - Tren - Winny ) which went perfectly...

    Had a littile break and its time to go on a other cycle for me..

    HGH 6 months ( ********** ) running 4 IU's from day one till the end

    Sustanon 600mg per week ( 300mg Monday / Thursday )

    Sustanon will be introduced 1 month later after starting the HGH and will last for 10 weeks.

    While using the Sustanon i will be taking 10mg of nolvadex throughout the cycle.

    PCT:

    ( start ) 3 weeks after last shot of sust

    Clomid (50,50,25,25)


    Now my questions ...

    1- Im more comfortable using nolvadex throughout the cycle instead at end.. what you think?

    2- would i need nolvadex on PCT as well ?

    3- Is sustanon good alone? your thoughts?

    4- any other comments please feel free to add!. Thanks!

    Diet and Training will remain on spot.. never stopped since last cycle ...

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    stats?
    age?
    height?
    weight?
    bf?
    experience?

    how long was your "little break" in between cycles?

    sust is better shot EOD, to take advantage of the prop ester in it.

    See bold below.


    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHat View Post
    Just wanted to post my cycle and get some review and opinions on it...

    I have a few vials of Sustanon 300mg/1ml and decided its time to use them.. Ive previously had a cycle that was ( HGH - Tren - Winny ) which went perfectly...

    Had a littile break and its time to go on a other cycle for me..

    HGH 6 months ( ********** ) running 4 IU's from day one till the end

    Sustanon 600mg per week ( 300mg Monday / Thursday )

    Sustanon will be introduced 1 month later after starting the HGH and will last for 10 weeks.

    While using the Sustanon i will be taking 10mg of nolvadex throughout the cycle.

    PCT:

    ( start ) 3 weeks after last shot of sust

    Clomid (50,50,25,25)


    Now my questions ...

    1- Im more comfortable using nolvadex throughout the cycle instead at end.. what you think?

    Are you gyno prone? Using an AI on cycle (or in this case, a SERM) is not a matter of comfortability, but necessity.

    2- would i need nolvadex on PCT as well ?

    Yes.

    3- Is sustanon good alone? your thoughts?

    Yes.

    4- any other comments please feel free to add!. Thanks!

    Diet and Training will remain on spot.. never stopped since last cycle ...

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    Thanks for reply bro,

    I was thinking maybe i would go for EOD, .5 ml EOD ? wouldnt that be a high dosage ?

    Id rather just stick to twice a week.

    Am i Gyno Prone ? i dont know and i dont want to find out the hard way so id rather just use the nolvadex while on cycle just incase.


    My Break was a few months since last PCT which was a very small cycle and im ready for a new one now.

    Age: 24 ( 25 soon ).
    Height: 6'0" or 6'1" depending who i slept with the previous day
    Weight: Around 190 lbs
    BF: around 15% (16.5%)

    So if Nolvadex is needed in PCT as well, id be running at (40,40,20,20) yea ?

    Thanks again!

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    waiting on other opinions and advice... please feel to share your views.

    would be highly appriciated if it came from personal experience

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    im a newb is this a heacy cycle or normal, just gathering info for myself aswell. Sustanon in Mg different from test. isnt tht a whole lot? please explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caseyh5990 View Post
    im a newb is this a heacy cycle or normal, just gathering info for myself aswell. Sustanon in Mg different from test. isnt tht a whole lot? please explain
    sust should be shot eod... you want to look into test e. theres a sticky. read it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caseyh5990 View Post
    im a newb is this a heacy cycle or normal, just gathering info for myself aswell. Sustanon in Mg different from test. isnt tht a whole lot? please explain
    500mg per week for 10 weeks is the average beginners cycle of sustanon so base your research off that. As for your 2nd question i dont quiet understand?

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    thanks for replying to the threads bumpers and not me

    EOD yea i could do that , how would it work out though ?

    Please explain

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    Also when on AAS such as Sust, do you think i should have an AI on hand just incase ? and when and how to use it incase of something accures

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHat View Post
    thanks for replying to the threads bumpers and not me

    EOD yea i could do that , how would it work out though ?

    Please explain
    EOD inject 1/2cc this should roughly administer 600mgs per week. Sorry for leaving you out lol. About the AI if your worried about bloat than id run it throughout the course of your cycle as for dosing i cant help you there.

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    not really worried about bloat as much as i am worried about gyno ..

    i was thinking id run nolva throughtout the whole cycle ... but now im thinking hmmm ... maybe ill go with arimidex or tamox ...

    I need some advice here ... so many different opinions ..

    otherwise i might just go with my original idea which is

    Nolvadex throught out the cycle ...

    then PCT :

    nolvadex 40,40,20,20
    clomid 50,50,25,25


    Let me know what u think guys ... should i change ? add ? what u guys think speak!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHat View Post
    not really worried about bloat as much as i am worried about gyno ..

    i was thinking id run nolva throughtout the whole cycle ... but now im thinking hmmm ... maybe ill go with arimidex or tamox ...

    I need some advice here ... so many different opinions ..

    otherwise i might just go with my original idea which is

    Nolvadex throught out the cycle ...

    then PCT :

    nolvadex 40,40,20,20
    clomid 50,50,25,25


    Let me know what u think guys ... should i change ? add ? what u guys think speak!
    Take Anastrozole (Arimidex equivalent) .25mg ED as an AI during your cycle. Tamox is the same as Nolva (tamoxifen citrate), essentially, and you should use that on your PCT, especially given that you're taking GH and Nolva reduces your IGF levels, so save that to your PCT.

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    Take Anastrozole (Arimidex equivalent) .25mg ED as an AI during your cycle. Tamox is the same as Nolva (tamoxifen citrate), essentially, and you should use that on your PCT, especially given that you're taking GH and Nolva reduces your IGF levels, so save that to your PCT.
    Interesting... so you think something like this would be better:

    Arimidex .25mg throughout the cycle

    then for PCT: ( 3 weeks after last shot )

    Nolvadex 40,40,20,20
    Clomid 50,50,25,25

    or should i not even use nolvadex on PCT either ? since i will still be on HGH when i run the pct?

    If i shouldnt use the nolvadex on PCT please let me know at what doses i should use of the arimidex.

    About the Anastrozole, my source cant provide that at the moment they do have Arimidex though... will that work ?

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    How about running T3 or Clen while on this cycle to help with the fat burn ?

    Opinions please!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHat View Post
    Interesting... so you think something like this would be better:

    Arimidex .25mg throughout the cycle

    then for PCT: ( 3 weeks after last shot )

    Nolvadex 40,40,20,20
    Clomid 50,50,25,25

    or should i not even use nolvadex on PCT either ? since i will still be on HGH when i run the pct?

    Yes, still run the nolva in pct

    If i shouldnt use the nolvadex on PCT please let me know at what doses i should use of the arimidex.

    .25mg EOD should work

    About the Anastrozole, my source cant provide that at the moment they do have Arimidex though... will that work ?yep

    ^Bolds

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    How about running T3 or Clen while on this cycle to help with the fat burn ?

    Opinions please!!!
    A low dose of T3 *could* be used on cycle (40-50mcg/day), not so much for fat loss as for aided protein synthesis and nutrient partitioning.

    I honestly think you'll be fine with the cycle as it is. Keep it simple.

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    Thanks D7M i appriciate it,

    So you think PCT would be better with nolvadex or arimidex ?

    and arimidex while on cycle ?

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHat View Post
    Thanks D7M i appriciate it,

    So you think PCT would be better with nolvadex or arimidex ?

    and arimidex while on cycle ?

    Thanks again!
    no problem, bro.

    Pct should be nolva and clomid.

    adex on cycle if needed.

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    Cool thanks alot, placing order for it now before i start the cycle want to make sure i have the pct on hand ...

    so you think i shouldnt use the clen and t3 then ? just stick with the cycle ?

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    ^good call getting everything on hand before you start.

    I honestly don't see the need of adding in clen or T3 on your cycle, but it's your call.

    I think it's a tough thing, even with AAS, to cut fat and gain lean muscle at the same time. If you're concerned about bf, you should cut first, prime yourself for the cycle, then go at it.

    That'd be much simpler than trying to add more drugs into your cycle to counteract any increases in bf, imo.

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    Thanks for the reply, and i guess you are right actually...

    Thanks again ...

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    no problem, bro

    good luck

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