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    WRX333 is offline New Member
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    What gains can i expect...?

    Hi all,

    Im due to start my second cycle this wkend & im just wondering if you guys think i will make any decent gains from it?

    Ive been training for 6-7 years & im currently 25yo, im 6' 6" & 17st 6lb.
    My first cycle was early this year in which i when from 17st 0 to 18st 4lb.
    First cycle was test e for 12 weeks + clomid/nolva pct.
    Since then i have been on a cut & have gone down to 17st 6 & lost around 3% bf (now around 10-10.5%).

    The cycle im starting this weekend i wanted to keep reasonably simple but obviously make some good lean gains at the same time.

    It will be:
    week(s) 1-8 - Test propionate 100mg eod
    week(s) 6-8 - winny Oral 50mg ed
    week(s) 10-13 PCT of Clomid 100/50/50/50 & Nolva 40/20/20/20
    I have HCG which i will use if i have atrophy of the balls. (run at 500ui e3d)

    any advise/comments welcome

    Cheers
    Last edited by WRX333; 09-02-2009 at 04:45 AM.

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    Well done on your gains so far, your stats are great and it looks like you built some decent tissue. I do think the current cycle needs some slight work, i feel you need to run the winny longer than 2 wks I would say at least 4 wks,that could be the last 4 or the first 4 which ever suits you the better. Also adjust the pct start time to suit the prop which would be 3 days after last shot of prop and not 2 wks, other than that cycle looks fine best of luck

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    Edit the brand names out maybe. Also, you may want to bump your prop dosage to 150mg EoD... but you would be the one to decide. I don't know what your previous cycle's dosage was to compare to.
    Also, I would run the HCG at 250I.U. E3D or 500I.U. E5D. Maybe run Nolva 40/40/20/20

    You may want to pick up an AI and run it throughout too, I doubt that will hinder any gains. Do basic protocol of .25mg EOD of anastrozole. (Adex). GL, and what is your diet like? You're a pretty big dude.

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    Cheers guys, i'll take it all into account. Also, brands edited.
    Good shout with sooner pct. Waited 2 weeks last cycle because it was test e.
    I'll get some more more winny & start at maybe week 4 as ive also been advised this elsewhere.

    Last cycle was 500mg test ew & diet was spot on. I dropped to maintainance cals for cutting but have gone back to my last cycles balanced diet this week for new cycle. Im taking in approx 4000 calories ed, decent balance of protein, carbs, good fats etc etc. Going to cut down on the salt this time round as i gained a little bit of unwanted fat/water with the muscle last time round. hence the cut afterward.

    my amps of test are mg per amp so 150mg is abit awkward. I'll try & grab some adex when i get more winny.

    Cheers again guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRX333 View Post
    Cheers guys, i'll take it all into account. Also, brands edited.
    Good shout with sooner pct. Waited 2 weeks last cycle because it was test e.
    I'll get some more more winny & start at maybe week 4 as ive also been advised this elsewhere.

    Last cycle was 500mg test ew & diet was spot on. I dropped to maintainance cals for cutting but have gone back to my last cycles balanced diet this week for new cycle. Im taking in approx 4000 calories ed, decent balance of protein, carbs, good fats etc etc. Going to cut down on the salt this time round as i gained a little bit of unwanted fat/water with the muscle last time round. hence the cut afterward.

    my amps of test are mg per amp so 150mg is abit awkward. I'll try & grab some adex when i get more winny.

    Cheers again guys.
    Best of luck and let us all know how you get on

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Best of luck and let us all know how you get on
    Will do mate,

    cheers

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