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    Thumbs up 1st Cycle Review Dbol/ Test E

    Age: 27
    Height: 72"
    Weight: 195lbs
    BF%: 12-15%
    Training exp: Moderate
    Cycle Exp: None

    This is what ive come up with from the help ive gotten off of my erlier post. Pls Correct/ cratique any mishaps.

    2 weeks prior to cycle starting: Femera (letrozole ) .25mg ED, continue during the cycle

    Weeks 1-12
    Monday morn/Thursday evening- 250mg Test E
    Weeks 1-4
    Daily- 40mg Dbol

    PCT
    2 weeks after last injection of Test E
    Day1-30
    .25mg Arimidex (L-Dex) ,, 100mg Clomid,, 20mg Nolvadex

    Couple of questions.
    1) Do I continue the Letro untill i start PCT or stop it when the cycle is complete?
    2) Should i go with the injectable form of Dbol, or the tabs. If i go w/ the tabs should i Divide the 40mg up threw out the day?
    3) What other vitamins/ suplments should I take?

    Thank you for your reviews an Input.

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    Why are you running letro throughout your cycle???

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    To prevent gyno. Should i wait an see how my body is going to react?
    Read it here: All you need to know about GYNO.
    Last edited by C.HASH; 09-02-2009 at 01:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.HASH View Post
    Age: 27
    Height: 72"
    Weight: 195lbs
    BF%: 12-15%
    Training exp: Moderate
    Cycle Exp: None

    This is what ive come up with from the help ive gotten off of my erlier post. Pls Correct/ cratique any mishaps.

    2 weeks prior to cycle starting: Femera (letrozole ) .25mg ED, continue during the cycle

    Weeks 1-12
    Monday morn/Thursday evening- 250mg Test E
    Weeks 1-4
    Daily- 40mg Dbol

    PCT
    2 weeks after last injection of Test E
    Day1-30
    .25mg Arimidex (L-Dex) ,, 100mg Clomid,, 20mg Nolvadex

    Couple of questions.
    1) Do I continue the Letro untill i start PCT or stop it when the cycle is complete?
    See below.

    2) Should i go with the injectable form of Dbol, or the tabs. If i go w/ the tabs should i Divide the 40mg up threw out the day?
    Yes, split up the dose throughout the day.

    3) What other vitamins/ suplments should I take?

    Food-arol

    Thank you for your reviews an Input.
    You're welcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.HASH View Post
    To prevent gyno. Should i wait an see how my body is going to react?
    yes. I don't see the need for such a strong AI right off the bat, unless you know you are prone to gyno.

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    No i dont know that im prone to gyno never had a problem with it before. Ill nix the letro. Everything else looks ok?

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    If done with the proper diet an exercise what kind of gains can I expect to see off of this cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.HASH View Post
    No i dont know that im prone to gyno never had a problem with it before. Ill nix the letro. Everything else looks ok?
    looks fine to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by C.HASH View Post
    If done with the proper diet an exercise what kind of gains can I expect to see off of this cycle?
    no one can accurately answer that, bro.

    just eat right, lift hard, rest well, and grow!

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    PCT
    2 weeks after last injection of Test E
    Day1-30
    .25mg Arimidex (L-Dex) ,, 100mg Clomid,, 20mg Nolvadex
    Your going to be using 100mg of Clomid for 4 entire weeks? Little steep.

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    Im just going off of what ive researched. What do you think it should be an your reasoning pls?

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    I'd run PCT at

    Clomid; 100/50/50/50
    Nolva; 40/40/20/20

    Running 100mg of Clomid for 4 weeks is just too high and unnecessary.

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    Please explain;

    Training Exp; Moderate.

    How long have you been training for?
    What are your goals with this cycle?

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    Guess it all depends on how my body i going to react. This is my first cycle I will take your advice an go 100/50/50/50. Untill i see how it works for me. Is the Arimidex good to throw in or should i have it on stanby?

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    Depends, an AI is used for bloating/signs of Gyno. I'd hold off until signs of those or you can always run .25 eod.

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    .25mg eod should be more than good.... I jumped on mine when i felt a slightly weird feeling in my nip. once it was gone... i did mine .25mg every time i did my test e injection. 2x a week... and i was good to go.

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    I just got out of the military after 8 years. I stayed in good shape while i was in but mainly focussed on cardio. while i was in my average Weight was 190-195lbs with 12-15% bf. Thats the mark i plan on being at when i start the cycle. I want to put on roughfly 25lbs of mass. If i like the way i look after the cycle i will go into a cycle more geared towards cutting. If not the i will go into a stronger Bulking Cycle

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    I'm a veteran too Hash. How long have you been lifting though?

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    Been lifting since high school, 10 or so years give or take. But while i was active duty my wrkouts were circuit an cardio training. Didnt workout to build mass, so in that aspect its new to me. An thats my goal with this cycle is to build mass

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    Post your diet so I can have a look - it's very important when your on a cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c-Z View Post
    .25mg eod should be more than good.... I jumped on mine when i felt a slightly weird feeling in my nip. once it was gone... i did mine .25mg every time i did my test e injection. 2x a week... and i was good to go.
    you started taking .25mg eod during the cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.HASH View Post
    you started taking .25mg eod during the cycle?
    Yes, c-Z is a firm believer in AI during cycle.

    AI is expensive though - I think that's why a lot of people don't.

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    Again, please post diet so we can get that set.

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    Yes c-z only took his ai when he thought there were signs of gyno, as Juturna say's, keep it on hand..

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    Im still working on gettin that together as well. I dont plan to start this cycle for a few months till I hit this from every angle an do it the proper way. You hve any diets you like to be on that worked for you during a bulking cycle? if so can i get them for referance.

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    I have my diet in my blog OP but you really need to have a diet that works for you and your individual stats. Don't count on a diet from a book - because the macros need to be specific for YOU.

    Post a thread in the diet forum and we'll get you started on that. It's far , FAR more important than AAS.

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    I agre, i wont start this till i get my diet in check. Where do i start w/ the diet?

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    http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

    You should be on your diet a long ways before you do a cycle.

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    Planning to be, just want to get this together now so i can have it as referance for later. I may not have access to be able to do it later on. Going to Kuwait in a month.

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    good luck in kuwait!

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    Thanks

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