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    New cycle + PCT, comments please.

    Hallo everybody.
    Please, be so kind and send some comments to my planned cycle.
    The target is not to add any fat and gain several pounds of quality mass. Due to health complications just short esters and "light" stuff.

    36 years old
    220 pounds
    around 15% BF
    9 years of training

    week 1-6: tst propionate 200mg EOD
    week 1-6: drostanolone dipropionate 100mg EOD
    week 1-6: HCG 250mg E3D
    week 3-6: winstrol 50mg ED or 100mg EOD
    week 1-6: vit. E 1000 iu ED

    3 days after last shot of AAS staff:

    week 7-10: tamox+clomid 20/50mg ED
    week 11: : tamox 10mg
    week: 7-12: provironum
    week 7-11: salbutamol 16mg ED
    week 7-11: vit. C 3x1500mg ED
    week 7-11: phosphatidylserine 800 iu ED

    Thanks a lot...
    EB.

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    The cycle is a bit on the short side, I'd push it to 8.

    At 15% bf don't expect great results from the winny or the mast.

    if you do decide to use the winny, it should be taken ED not EOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    The cycle is a bit on the short side, I'd push it to 8.

    At 15% bf don't expect great results from the winny or the mast.

    if you do decide to use the winny, it should be taken ED not EOD.
    Regardin my % BF it is clear for me. I am thinking to loose some fat until the cycle...probably yes, probably no...I´ll see.

    The most important thing is, that I have ONLY 11-12 weeks max. Not more. Due to personal reasons. Means max. 12 weeks including PCT. I try to re-arrange the cycle and I´ll ask then.

    Thx

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    Re-arranged cycle:

    week 1-8: tst propionate 200mg EOD
    week 1-8: drostanolone dipropionate 100mg EOD
    week 1-8: HCG 250mg E3D
    week 4-8: winstrol 50mg ED
    week 1-8: vit. E 1000 iu ED

    3 days after last shot of AAS staff:

    week 8-11: tamox+clomid 20/50mg ED
    week 12: : tamox 10mg
    week: 8-12: provironum
    week 8-12: salbutamol 16mg ED
    week 8-12: vit. C 3x1500mg ED
    week 8-12: phosphatidylserine 800 iu ED

    Would be PCT sufficient?

    Thx for all ideas again...

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    I like your cycle a lot. If you decide on doing 6 weeks that could work.
    Pct also look decent,I see you`re adding C-vit and thats good,I like to do it also. Only thing I would different is to drop mast and win and do proviron trougout your cycle instead. If you drop your bodyfat then go ahead with your original plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpsteinBarr View Post
    Re-arranged cycle:

    week 1-8: tst propionate 200mg EOD
    week 1-8: drostanolone dipropionate 100mg EOD
    week 1-8: HCG 250mg E3D mcg's not mg's
    week 4-8: winstrol 50mg ED
    week 1-8: vit. E 1000 iu ED

    3 days after last shot of AAS staff:

    week 8-11: tamox+clomid 20/50mg ED I would do 40mg/nolva for 2 weeks and 20mg nolva for the last 2. Also - 100mg's clomid 1st week and 50mg's for 3 weeks.
    week 12: : tamox 10mg
    week: 8-12: provironum I would not run proviron in pct
    week 8-12: salbutamol 16mg ED
    week 8-12: vit. C 3x1500mg ED
    week 8-12: phosphatidylserine 800 iu ED

    Would be PCT sufficient?

    Thx for all ideas again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Do you have a fascination with mononucleosis for some reason???
    LMFAO i was thinking the same thing.....

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    Jokes on me??

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    Quote Originally Posted by omna82 View Post
    Jokes on me??
    Epstein-Barr Virus, its the cause of infectious mononucleosis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Do you have a fascination with mononucleosis for some reason???
    I was keen on micro during my university (except girls and beer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Epstein-Barr Virus, its the cause of infectious mononucleosis.
    Ahhh...got it. Good one.lol.

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    Hazard and others:
    Thank you very much.

    I composed this cycle (mainly hcg and serm's) according to infos from this site. Cycles, hcg and pct approaches which I see around me are absolutely different. I am very curious how it will work.

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