"Anabolics 2009" book --who's read it?

[BennyLom]

I've been going through this book (William Llewellyn's 'Anabolics 2009') over the last few weeks and I'm finding some contradictions that I want your opinion on.

1.) The book argues against tapering in steroid cycles. Yet in the sample cycles the author is recommending, some cycles do just that: tapering. If the author does not believe in such practices, then why suggest the use of such cycles.

2.) The book argues a Test cycle shouldn't be longer than 8 weeks (due to the fact that you stop making gains if you don't up the dosage and that if you up the dosage you increase the negative sides). Yet in the sample cycles the author is recommending, some cycles do just that

3.) There is one sample cycle (called "Testosterone cycle #1 (mass)") where the doses suggested are 200mg per day. This seems excessive for a beginner's cycle --can we assume a typo and that 200mg a week was intended?

[07sandiegomuscle]

I read 2005 and 2007. I am no guru, but that must be 200mg a week- which by the way isn't very much for a lot of peoples body weight. Yeah, contradictions in the books, contradictions on the websites even by the "gurus."

[wukillabee]

Remember, ur goin off of what someone whos never used AAS before says! Reason why i dont waste the cash, can learn so much more online for free from real medical research and real users.

[07sandiegomuscle]

By the way, I posted a whole newbie cycle from the guru's book and the guru's from the websites flamed it!?

[FireGuy]

I have the 2009 version and found quite a bit of very useful information in it.

[DEE151]

i posted a link to download the file a few weeks ago here it is again just in case some of you did not download it
enjoy fella's.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OO2F0QYU

[CaliPhotog]

I have the 2009 version and found quite a bit of very useful information in it.

Looking shredded in the new avatar Fireguy!!! Danm!

[t-gunz]

Looking shredded in the new avatar Fireguy!!! Danm!

excatly what i was thinking. nice work

it's good having vets around here who actually practice what they preach!

[07sandiegomuscle]

i posted a link to download the file a few weeks ago here it is again just in case some of you did not download it
enjoy fella's.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OO2F0QYU

I only wish that website to download it from wasn't so shady? McAfee warned me not to download from there.

[FireGuy]

excatly what i was thinking. nice work

it's good having vets around here who actually practice what they preach!

Thanks Guy's, it was still only good enough for 3rd place this last weekend but I will make the necessary improvements.

[BIGJOL]

Iv got the book, it has so intesresting idea's in there, as well as the much talked abou dbol only cycle aswell for new people.. but there was a post not that long ago where William Llewellyn was explaining his reasoning for what he has talked about.

[firmechicano831]

i posted a link to download the file a few weeks ago here it is again just in case some of you did not download it
enjoy fella's.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OO2F0QYU

thanks bro.

[TITANIUM]

It has some useful info, but some must be disregarded.

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[TITANIUM]

i posted a link to download the file a few weeks ago here it is again just in case some of you did not download it
enjoy fella's.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OO2F0QYU

Thanks for the DL.

T

[Blade15]

i posted a link to download the file a few weeks ago here it is again just in case some of you did not download it
enjoy fella's.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OO2F0QYU

Thanks a lot bro....

[powerlifter18]

that download is sick thanks man

[mtwain]

This download doesn't show any of the test results or maybe I'm missing it. What page is it on?

[Arian]

I just bought the book a month or two ago. I like all the pics in the back and I like the full descriptions of all the different steroids and what the side effects are and all that. But yeah, some of the cycles are a little funny compared to what guys on here say.

[mtwain]

I just bought the book a month or two ago. I like all the pics in the back and I like the full descriptions of all the different steroids and what the side effects are and all that. But yeah, some of the cycles are a little funny compared to what guys on here say.

What page are the test results. I think that's all most people cared about and and it could have been 200 pages instead of over 600.

[BennyLom]

"ctrl + f" allows you to search a PDF file...

[mtwain]

"ctrl + f" allows you to search a PDF file...

I tired typing in "Sciroxx" or "Geneza" and though I see it scrolling through the 700 pages nothing comes up.

[Sheven]

i don't think the writer of the anabolics book has any medical background or pharmaceutical background. from the first versions of the anabolics book they all seemed to be a copy of the duchain books. i think we should be careful who's advise we follow and who we do consider a guru or a guy with good knowledge or fake guru's with information copied from here or there and in the end a total contradiction in its own arguments.

[mtwain]

i don't think the writer of the anabolics book has any medical background or pharmaceutical background. from the first versions of the anabolics book they all seemed to be a copy of the duchain books. i think we should be careful who's advise we follow and who we do consider a guru or a guy with good knowledge or fake guru's with information copied from here or there and in the end a total contradiction in its own arguments.

What people are most interested in is the testing that he did on various UGL products. They were bought off the black market as anybody else does or had customers send in samples that they themselves bought. For example, here is some results of the tests done of products from Endosyn and Morningstar.
http://www.*************.com/wordpress/?p=1379

[Sheven]

What people are most interested in is the testing that he did on various UGL products. They were bought off the black market as anybody else does or had customers send in samples that they themselves bought. For example, here is some results of the tests done of products from Endosyn and Morningstar.
http://www.*************.com/wordpress/?p=1379

that's true but are you interested in lab tests of products customers send in? anyone can send a bad sample of a product or a tampered product to harm other lab. and i wouldn't go so far to think william lywellyn has no vested interest in the results.

[mtwain]

No links allowed I guess. Then here's the copy and paste:

The steroid samples examined during the making of UNDERGROUND ANABOLICS were done so at a DEA licensed analytical laboratory. The steroids were subject to a total of five specific lab tests, each of which can tell us something about its quality and assembly. The details of these individual lab tests are discussed below.
Aerobic Plate Count is a measure of general sanitary quality. It quantifies the amount of bacteria found in the product, but does not identify the bacteria type. The steroid solution is placed on a general purpose medium, and the bacteria is quantified as the number of “colony forming units” per each gram of material.
Karl Fisher Water is a test that measures the percentage of water in a solution. While not inherently of concern, high water content in an oil-based steroid can reflect unfavorable manufacturing conditions, such as the exposure of the solution or hygroscopic (water absorbing) raw materials to unfiltered air.
Heavy Metals testing will determine the content (by weight) of toxic metals in the product such as lead, mercury, and arsenic.
pH is a unit of measure for determining if a liquid is acidic, neutral, or basic (alkaline). An ideal pH is generally considered to be between 4 and 7. Solutions with a high or low pH may cause significant irritation in the muscle tissues at the site of injection.
Chromatographic Purity is a gas chromatograph test designed to identify all major constituents of the product including the active drug, oily carriers, solvents, co-solvents, other antimicrobial agents, and impurities. This test essentially gives us a wide spectrum analysis of what is present in the steroid solution. It also provides a rough quantification of the active steroid concentration, although some deviation is expected from more accurate assay-based testing.

As you can see, we’ve decided to go for a lot more than steroid dosage this time. In fact, not only did we want to know the dose and if there were any metals, water contamination, or bacteria in the samples, we opted for full chromatographic purity. This gave us a detailed picture of most constituents; even minor parts of the formula that we might not think to look for otherwise. So we were really able to bring you a very detailed look into what (essentially everything) was in each of these black market steroid products. The results for all of our testing will be here very soon. Are you ready to see exactly what you might have been injecting into your body?

Endosyn and Morning Star Labs

On that note, here are the results I promised for the article, from testing done on samples from Morning Star Labs and Endosyn. Note that these samples were tested for chromatographic purity only, and were not analyzed for metals, water, pH, or bacteria like other samples from the UNDERGROUND ANABOLICS book. So this was a more basic set of tests, representing only one level of what you will find in the new book. Chromatographic purity is the most detailed of our tests, however, and again, tells us all the various compounds that are found in a solution. It very often can be the most telling. I hope you like what we have been doing will all this testing, and will support our efforts by preordering the book.

Endosyn:
Product: Primabolic 100
Content: Methanolone enanthate
Labeled Dose: 100 mg/mL
Chromatographic purity testing showed the product to contain:
- Methanolone enanthate 140 mg/mL
- Benzyl Alcohol
- Benzyl Benzoate
- Methyl Benzoate
- BHT
- Fatty acid methyl esters
- Fatty acid ethyl esters
- Ethyl oleate
- Aroma aldehydes
- Amines



Morning Star Labs:
Product: Testosterone Enanthate
Content: Testosterone Enanthate
Labeled Dose: 325 mg/mL
Chromatographic purity testing showed the product to contain:
- Testosterone Enanthate 350 mg/mL
- Benzyl Alcohol
- Benzaldehyde
- Fatty acid methyl esters
- Ethyl oleate
- Aroma aldehydes
- Trace steroids



Testing Comments

Neither product was subject to full analysis, so we do not have enough information to make a complete judgment about the potential risks of using these drugs. Both items did contain the listed active steroids in higher than the labeled amounts, and should yield the expected anabolic results in users. Beyond that, one could see by the list of ingredients that true pharmaceutical grade manufacturing techniques were not used to make these steroids. In both cases, there appeared to be various types of contamination. These (often natural) compounds were not investigated further, but did include things like trace steroids and amines, which often result from faults in steroid synthesis or from the use of non-pharmaceutical grade assembly materials.
Final Comments

As you can see, UNDERGROUND ANABOLICS will showcase a level of steroid testing that we have not done before, or are accustomed to seeing. The beauty of this new “deep testing” with procedures such as chromatographic purity is that it allows us to hold these steroid products under a virtual microscope. While counterfeiters and underground manufacturers may work very hard to convince the buying public that their products are made to real pharmaceutical standards, this testing is far too detailed to trick. If lower grade materials or procedures are used, it will show up on the reports, no matter how fancy and professional the packaging may look!