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    Prop as a cycle kickstart?

    Anyone use prop as a kickstart for a cycle? I was thinking of a Test E cycle using prop to get things going faster. Anyone have experience? If you did it, or were to do it, how would you plan the cycle? Thanks alot.

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    can i get your stats 1st

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    can i get your stats 1st

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    Started a Test E cycle but was forced to end it after four weeks due to the flu. No other experience.

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    prop is a great kickstart

    what dose of test e are u planning on running? length?

    what do u have lined up for pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    can i get your stats 1st

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    Quote Originally Posted by Researcher View Post
    Anyone use prop as a kickstart for a cycle? I was thinking of a Test E cycle using prop to get things going faster. Anyone have experience? If you did it, or were to do it, how would you plan the cycle? Thanks alot.
    i was thinking about starting with the same thing.

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    First Cycle! Any suggestions Or advice?

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    want2 get big,
    test e or test c for 10-12 weeks. i dont think u should kickstart a 1st cycle with prop though, too much pinning for a 1st timer.

    id suggest an oral kicker like dbol or tbol

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    actually ditto to you too Researcher, id suggest an oral kicker

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    want2 get big,
    test e or test c for 10-12 weeks. i dont think u should kickstart a 1st cycle with prop though, too much pinning for a 1st timer.

    id suggest an oral kicker like dbol or tbol
    Not to game on the oral bro. I heard alot of negitive things about oral cycles. So, i guess Test E for 10 wks for First cycle? Then PCT for 3 wks with Nolv Or ?
    I just want to put on about 15 lbs of Muscle for now. Real sceptic about gyno. Should i have any worries with this cycle?

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    well orals alone are a no-no (depending on the oral), but if u want u can stack it alongside your test, u will be fine. a test only cycle is very good though, you do not NEED an oral

    PCT would be 4 weeks with clomid and nolvadex

    if you re worried about gyno, which is fine, you can run arimidex on your cycle to keep estrogen levels down in a good range

    any more Qs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    actually ditto to you too Researcher, id suggest an oral kicker
    I'm not really interested in using an oral. I didn't mind the pinning with the Test E cycle so I don't think more frequent pinning would be a problem. Do you have any advice on how to organize a prop / test e cycle? How much of what and when? How long to run the prop? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic View Post
    well orals alone are a no-no (depending on the oral), but if u want u can stack it alongside your test, u will be fine. a test only cycle is very good though, you do not NEED an oral

    PCT would be 4 weeks with clomid and nolvadex

    if you re worried about gyno, which is fine, you can run arimidex on your cycle to keep estrogen levels down in a good range

    any more Qs?
    Awsome, Thanks for the advice bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Want_2_Get_BIG View Post
    i was thinking about starting with the same thing.

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    You asked once in this thread First Cycle, need your advice! and you was told that 8 months isnt long enough to of been training to start a cycle and your diet is rubbish,

    why are you not listening to good advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    You asked once in this thread First Cycle, need your advice! and you was told that 8 months isnt long enough to of been training to start a cycle and your diet is rubbish,

    why are you not listening to good advice?
    Well, I said on and off for like 7 yrs. Solid for almost a yr now. I am im an impatinte idot I guess. I am not trying to get into comps or anything. My goal is just to gain 15 more pounds and get a little stronger. 12 to 15 wk cycle and I am done. I have added more protein, carbs , and Fat g to my diet. Somewhere around 3500 calaries. Thanks For your input though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Want_2_Get_BIG View Post
    Well, I said on and off for like 7 yrs. Solid for almost a yr now. I am im an impatinte idot I guess. I am not trying to get into comps or anything. My goal is just to gain 15 more pounds and get a little stronger. 12 to 15 wk cycle and I am done. I have added more protein, carbs , and Fat g to my diet. Somewhere around 3500 calaries. Thanks For your input though!
    You diet is awfull, you cant just change it like that and start gear, you have only been training for 8 months,

    sort your diet out,
    train for another year at least

    Are you going to listen??? no!!

    I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    You diet is awfull, you cant just change it like that and start gear, you have only been training for 8 months,

    sort your diet out,
    train for another year at least

    Are you going to listen??? no!!

    I give up

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    dbol to kick start test e.......... just my 2cents

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    why would you kick start with prop when you can just frontload the test E imo?
    get an oral if you want to kickstart with something

    and btw, marcus knows his stuff so it would do you well to take his advise on diet even if you got a fire in your pants to start juicing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    why would you kick start with prop when you can just frontload the test E imo?
    get an oral if you want to kickstart with something

    and btw, marcus knows his stuff so it would do you well to take his advise on diet even if you got a fire in your pants to start juicing.
    I think you might be confused. This other guy hijacked my thread. My stats are in order.

    What advantage do you get from frontloading Test E? It's still a long ester, so how does it get started any quicker? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Want_2_Get_BIG View Post
    Well, I said on and off for like 7 yrs. Solid for almost a yr now. I am im an impatinte idot I guess. I am not trying to get into comps or anything. My goal is just to gain 15 more pounds and get a little stronger. 12 to 15 wk cycle and I am done. I have added more protein, carbs , and Fat g to my diet. Somewhere around 3500 calaries. Thanks For your input though!
    Bro can you go start your own thread? I'm trying to get some answers and advice here and your nonsense is interfering.

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    I'll let marcus explain

    Frontloading explained-

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    marcus is genius on this stuff.......... my 2 cents are use an oral.....dbol to jump start the cycle

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