Critique this cycle

**hammerhead** · 01-04-2003, 07:28 AM

The idea is to bulk and then do some fat-burning cutting at the end. The deca /primo/win is the cutting half - the eq/d-bol is the bulking half and test is the backbone. I'm thinking about pyramiding the doses. I did that one cycle and I think it helps keep the gains coming through the first 8 weeks and it makes coming off easier. But if I didn't pyramind the doses i'd use 500mg/wk of the equip and sust. So I make 500 the peak dose right? I'm afraid if I do something like 375,500,625 mg/wk i'm going to get my body used to the 625 and from now i'll have to do that much to get the gains I want. Am I being reasonable with those assumptions? Here it is and yes it's ugly but it's a combination of the ideas behind cycle examples 1 and 3 here on AR.

wk 1-6 d-bol 4,5,6,6,5,4 tabs/day
wk 1-7 equip 250,375,500,500,375,250,250 mg/wk
wk 1-10 sustenon 250,250,375,375,500,500,375,375,250,250 mg/wk
wk 7-12 deca 200,300,300,300,200,200 mg/wk
wk 7-12 primo 200,300,300,300,200,200 mg/wk
wk 9-14 winnie 25mg/day
wk 9-14 clen pyramid

I'd bulk weeks 5-8 and cut weeks 9-12

**MBaraso** · 01-04-2003, 08:07 AM

Personally I don't like that cycle for a # of reasons. I can see what you are trying to say about the pryamid thing, but IMO that isn't nessesarry anymore. Eq for only 7 weeks is a defienetly a no no. And the way you wanna run the Sus is flat out a bad idea.
I think your idea about bulking at the begining and cutting at the end can be acomplished but you need to change this cycle around....

**peaker** · 01-04-2003, 08:24 AM

run the eq for at least 10 weeks at 400mg/week and dont pryamid any of your doses.

**hammerhead** · 01-04-2003, 09:21 AM

Okay. Revision number 1:

wk 1-6 d-bol 25mg/day (5 tabs a day for 40 days = 200 tabs)
wk 1-10 equip 350mg/wk (100mg EOD)
wk 1-10 sus 435mg/wk (1/2 vial EOD)
wk 7-12 deca 350mg/wk (100mg EOD)
wk 7-12 primo 350mg/wk (100mg EOD)
wk 9-14 win 25mg/day
wk 9-14 clen /ECA

No pyramids and 10 weeks of Eq. Bulking weeks 5-8 cutting weeks 8-12

The doses may be a little low in the front. The deca may be unecessary. How's this one look?

**nj_** · 01-04-2003, 09:27 AM

I would swap the deca for fina if you are cutting.

**hammerhead** · 01-04-2003, 09:56 AM

I bought a bunch of Primo/win/deca /clen to do a cutting cycle and then decided I don't need a whole cutting cycle just a cutting ending to a mass cycle. This is a use-what-I-got bulking/cutting cycle. But tren is a good idea - if I had been planning on a bulking/cutting cycle from the start that's what i'd have.