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    Smile This questions must be answered a million times..but...

    newbie here!!...

    First I'll start off with some stats. I'm currently not on anything more than multivitamins, EFA, and a preworkout and post workout drink and protein shakes..I'm a 34 yr old asian.....I eat relatively healthy...my stats are below...

    Stats-

    Age: 34
    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 160 lbs
    BF%: 12%
    Cycle Exp: NONE
    PCT Knowledge: ZIP
    Training Exp: Good. Above average

    I've read all the newbie threads already...and have finally decided to give this a try...

    so I found a source and basically..i've narrowed it down to..

    TBOL and Test E

    with PCT using Clomid and Proviron ..

    I gotta say...I apologize for not even using the proper lingo...this industry is vast and it's got a huge learning curve but I don't want to start anything until I've had a chance to consult with the experts (people on this site)...

    so my questions are...

    1) Tbol is better than dbol because there is less bloating effect? cause I don't wanna balloon up like a blowfish
    2) I was told that Test E's purposes is to help you maintain the weight gain...is there an oral version of anything that can assist me in maintaining the weight gain? I'm skeptical about injections...manly because it's freakin me out...
    3) can anyone suggest a cycle? dosage? HELP...please....
    4) Once I start using this stuff...will I have to do it for life? to maintain the results? or will my body have settled into a new plateau and I can stop anytime?
    5) Once I stop, will my liver and glands return to normal with time? or they will be screwed up for good unless I take something to get them back on track?
    6) I look to gain about 20 lbs and would be more than happy...aside from proper diet and protein intake (2 gm per lb of body weight), is my choice of product good? should I add anything..

    I appreciate anyone's help..and apologize for the newbieness in my post....

    Thanks..

    p.s. back to reading the newbie section.. :P

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    sounds like ya need to do a lot more research before you cycle. without adequate knowledge of PCT you could lose almost all your gains an even more due to lacking natty levels after comming off

    check out WARMachine's sticky for some PCT info
    "Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT by WARMachine"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostromo View Post
    newbie here!!...

    First I'll start off with some stats. I'm currently not on anything more than multivitamins, EFA, and a preworkout and post workout drink and protein shakes..I'm a 34 yr old asian.....I eat relatively healthy...my stats are below...

    Stats-

    Age: 34
    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 160 lbs
    BF%: 12%
    Cycle Exp: NONE
    PCT Knowledge: ZIP
    Training Exp: Good. Above average

    I've read all the newbie threads already...and have finally decided to give this a try...

    so I found a source and basically..i've narrowed it down to..

    TBOL and Test E

    with PCT using Clomid and Proviron ..

    I gotta say...I apologize for not even using the proper lingo...this industry is vast and it's got a huge learning curve but I don't want to start anything until I've had a chance to consult with the experts (people on this site)...

    so my questions are...

    1) Tbol is better than dbol because there is less bloating effect? cause I don't wanna balloon up like a blowfish
    2) I was told that Test E's purposes is to help you maintain the weight gain...is there an oral version of anything that can assist me in maintaining the weight gain? I'm skeptical about injections...manly because it's freakin me out...
    3) can anyone suggest a cycle? dosage? HELP...please....
    4) Once I start using this stuff...will I have to do it for life? to maintain the results? or will my body have settled into a new plateau and I can stop anytime?
    5) Once I stop, will my liver and glands return to normal with time? or they will be screwed up for good unless I take something to get them back on track?
    6) I look to gain about 20 lbs and would be more than happy...aside from proper diet and protein intake (2 gm per lb of body weight), is my choice of product good? should I add anything..

    I appreciate anyone's help..and apologize for the newbieness in my post....

    Thanks..

    p.s. back to reading the newbie section.. :P
    IMHO, go to the diet section and post your diet up. Gain some natural weight and while your doing this, you should have done enough research to answer everyone of those questions you posted. This site (with appropriate time and research)will educate you enough to make a reasonable decision for your self.

    All the best.

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    1) dont take either
    2) there is but its more for keeping a healthy normal male level of test in system
    3) 300 to 500mg wk for 10 to 12 wks with pct,, id drop proviron and add tamox
    4) you will eventually come back to your natural weight
    5) they will come back to normal,, unless you abuse them
    6) fine with just test

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    Reading the diet section now...i've generally been a lighter kid than most....at the lowest weight..i was around 140..barely....and have worked hard to put on the 20 lbs....and at peak i was down to 9% bf...thanks for all the replies so far...gonna do more reading no this now...this is serious stuff....i didn't wanna just start taking things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostromo View Post
    Reading the diet section now...i've generally been a lighter kid than most....at the lowest weight..i was around 140..barely....and have worked hard to put on the 20 lbs....and at peak i was down to 9% bf...thanks for all the replies so far...gonna do more reading no this now...this is serious stuff....i didn't wanna just start taking things
    cool,, good attitude,,, just dont let them get to you with all that "you gotta be this much weight at this height before you start" BS. Your 34,, and it seems like you know how to eat and train,, you arent gonna get much bigger naturally IMHO>

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    cool,, good attitude,,, just dont let them get to you with all that "you gotta be this much weight at this height before you start" BS. Your 34,, and it seems like you know how to eat and train,, you arent gonna get much bigger naturally IMHO>
    yep^^^

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