Lesson learned. Any teen considering STEROID use look here.

**Mooseman33** · 10-28-2009, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by chitownhoker

this is not the way to tell the young community to not use steriods . It resmebles that of the government and their war on drugs.....they tell kids that weed is as bad as heroin, then they go and smoke and weed and are like this isn't bad at all, lets just shoot up.

This story he told was a joke, one inject of sus does not massive effects on your hormonal system to the point where you get massive depression and just want to lay in bed. His story is more entertaining than it is truthful in my opinion.

i would not call his story entertaining, because in his mind the steroid did cause it, i would call it un-educated.
the OP was home sick and depressed, then was worried about starting his cycle which lead to his side effects..
i agree with his message about waiting and telling others to wait, but i strongly disagree with the steroid being the cause of his issues..

**LBP311** · 10-28-2009, 09:48 AM

when i was 19 and it was my first yr of college and away from home. i started working out hard to keep my self busy i didnt know anyone at college and meet someone in the gym whom i became friends with.anyway he sold me my first cycle a 10ml of test 400 not much of a cycle but i didnt know much. anyway i gave myself my first shoot and at first i felt tired and deppessed becauce i was lonely and the mind is a very powerful thing it allows your thoughts to become actions. im not saying it was all in your head because no one know exactly what your harmones are doing in your body right now. you may have had crazy reaction. im just saying i went though the same thing and i continued my cycle and later starting growing and felt great. but now 5 yrs later i regret starting that early because i got carried away and shut my natty test down now i struggle with geting my natural test back to normal after a cycle. so it is good for teens to considered waiting espeacily if you plan on having kids.

**gunslinger2** · 10-28-2009, 10:24 AM

one shot of suston is not gonna give u depression man, why not attribute your blindness to it

Exactly. I think he is just buying into the media bullshit. If he would have been diagnosed with cancer after this I'm sure he would blame steroids as well.

this is not the way to tell the young community to not use steriods . It resmebles that of the government and their war on drugs.....they tell kids that weed is as bad as heroin, then they go and smoke and weed and are like this isn't bad at all, lets just shoot up.

This story he told was a joke, one inject of sus does not massive effects on your hormonal system to the point where you get massive depression and just want to lay in bed. His story is more entertaining than it is truthful in my opinion.

Again, exactly right. I personally think if you are under 25 and don't have at least 5-7 years of balls to the wall training under your belt, you have no business trying steroids. But, if and when you do don't blame them for every problem you have in your life. Steroids are not for everyone and they can cause some really bad sides in some people., but severe depression after the first shot aint one of them.

Your story would have had much more credit if you had said after your cycle you lost everything you gained and then some. Maybe had some bad POST CYCLE depression. I think you need to stay far away from steroids and for that matter the gym as well.

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by chitownhoker

this is not the way to tell the young community to not use steriods . It resmebles that of the government and their war on drugs.....they tell kids that weed is as bad as heroin, then they go and smoke and weed and are like this isn't bad at all, lets just shoot up.

This story he told was a joke, one inject of sus does not massive effects on your hormonal system to the point where you get massive depression and just want to lay in bed. His story is more entertaining than it is truthful in my opinion.

And you would know right? because you have the exact same traits as me and all?

And i also find it weird that all of my depression/mood swings are all gone now that i havent touched it for 11 days? hmmm

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by gunslinger2

Exactly. I think he is just buying into the media bullshit. If he would have been diagnosed with cancer after this I'm sure he would blame steroids as well.

Again, exactly right. I personally think if you are under 25 and don't have at least 5-7 years of balls to the wall training under your belt, you have no business trying steroids. But, if and when you do don't blame them for every problem you have in your life. Steroids are not for everyone and they can cause some really bad sides in some people., but severe depression after the first shot aint one of them.

Your story would have had much more credit if you had said after your cycle you lost everything you gained and then some. Maybe had some bad POST CYCLE depression. I think you need to stay far away from steroids and for that matter the gym as well.

Im pretty sure you know just as much as i do about steroids, and possibly less considering you dont know me and how different people react differently to drugs in general. Its not for me and i explained my side effects, just because YOU didnt have these side effect or your buddies doesnt mean that every 1 in 25 people can have a bad reaction to the steroid . Dont accuse unless you know what you are talking about not just if you think you know.

**chitownhoker** · 10-28-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by jenkrob

And you would know right? because you have the exact same traits as me and all?

And i also find it weird that all of my depression/mood swings are all gone now that i havent touched it for 11 days? hmmm

do you understand how steriods work? one single injection of anything does not massivly through off your hormonal system. Its not like cocain where you do it and it hits your brain instantly, it takes time for levels to get up in your system to the point where it could mess around with your endo system.

you my dear sir, are a young un educated baby at his first year of college. You shot some test and freaked out, you couldn't beleive what you did. Your conscience is what made you feel depressed, not A SINGLE shot of sust.....you need to read, read, read, cry to mommy, read and read to educate yourself.

don't call me out on what i know, when my knowledge on lifting, eating and aas far exceeds where yours are.

**Kibble** · 10-28-2009, 12:21 PM

That is why I thought you shot heroin

But guys, no fighting. Let's all just get along

**chuckt12345** · 10-28-2009, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by jenkrob

Im pretty sure you know just as much as i do about steroids , and possibly less considering you dont know me and how different people react differently to drugs in general. Its not for me and i explained my side effects, just because YOU didnt have these side effect or your buddies doesnt mean that every 1 in 25 people can have a bad reaction to the steroid . Dont accuse unless you know what you are talking about not just if you think you know.

were not tryin to be dks, well some might,, i thnk the main point we are saying is that one shot will not affect you like that. It was more of a mental thing for you.

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 01:59 PM

well i know what i felt and i havent never felt like that and ive seen plenty of other stories from teens who had the same exact side effects. i wouldnt have shot it if i thought if was bad or felt like it was a big deal.

chit considering the maturity you have have carried with you throughout this thread im thinking your the one who needs to research how to be civilized and act like an adult?

**Mooseman33** · 10-28-2009, 02:20 PM

u were derpressed, home sick and nervous aout ur first shot....it happens man.
unless u had an allergy to the chems, there is no way one shot would cause all that.

as someone said earlier, the mind is very powerful, and i think ur mind got the best of u..

either way, im glad u are ok now man...

**chitownhoker** · 10-28-2009, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by jenkrob

well i know what i felt and i havent never felt like that and ive seen plenty of other stories from teens who had the same exact side effects. i wouldnt have shot it if i thought if was bad or felt like it was a big deal.

chit considering the maturity you have have carried with you throughout this thread im thinking your the one who needs to research how to be civilized and act like an adult?

please point me in the direction of a forum where i can discuss this, here we discuss aas knowledge and as others have stated it was a mental thing with you, not an aas thing

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

u were derpressed, home sick and nervous aout ur first shot....it happens man.
unless u had an allergy to the chems, there is no way one shot would cause all that.

as someone said earlier, the mind is very powerful, and i think ur mind got the best of u..

either way, im glad u are ok now man...

Could be very likely it may have just brought it all out, i dont feel depressed now that i am off but who knows most likely it is from all the changes ive had in the past month college/girlfriend bullshit at home/leaving all my friends/ etc.... Either way it opened my eyes and turned me away from AAS for a couple years and i could have been much worse so now its just more motivation for lifting naturally. Thank you guys for all the opinions and help from those of you who could be open and civilized with me.

**Mooseman33** · 10-28-2009, 02:47 PM

just keep training natural my man, use the time to learn about the chems and dieting for growth..

it was good that this happened, in a weird way...

all in all, u made a good choice stopping the AAS...

**firmechicano831** · 10-28-2009, 02:53 PM

maybe it wasn't real gear and instead u were injecting rat poison.

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by firmechicano831

maybe it wasn't real gear and instead u were injecting rat poison.

thats what it felt like lol

**spooledup** · 10-28-2009, 03:08 PM

I feel longacting esters 1-2 hours after my first injection. I've always wanted to make a post about it to see if anyone else feels it that quick, but I never did.

Just hanging around the house the evening of the first injection I can feel my heart speeding up slightly, even just sitting at my computer desk. And then it's like a small occasional wave comes by of "that feeling" you get when you're "on", but it's kinda nice.

Anyone else?

He had a fast acting ester in there too, so I think he may have felt something along the lines of a slight anabolic affect going on, which may have translated into anxiety, however slight, but that he just overreacted because he couldn't control it.

**biggerguns** · 10-28-2009, 03:39 PM

Fake gear dude. Stay away from AAS.

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by biggerguns

Fake gear dude. Stay away from AAS.

but i have 3 friends on the exact stuff with exceptional results

**barnyap** · 10-28-2009, 04:19 PM

i did my first bench press yesterday... **** you should have seen me today.. JACKED!! VEINS EVERYWHERE, RONNIE HERE I COME

**BD67** · 10-28-2009, 04:33 PM

I don't understand why people are giving this guy soo much shit. He had an issue and he's trying to prevent others from having the same problem by sharing his story. Whats the BFD?

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by BD67

I don't understand why people are giving this guy soo much shit. He had an issue and he's trying to prevent others from having the same problem by sharing his story. Whats the BFD?

good question. mostly because its never happened to them, or they are just plain immature.

**Big** · 10-28-2009, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by BD67

I don't understand why people are giving this guy soo much shit. He had an issue and he's trying to prevent others from having the same problem by sharing his story. Whats the BFD?

I was wondering the same thing. He did something we often tell young people they shouldn't do, had a reaction he didn't like, and wanted to share that with others. regardless of whether it was a chemical reaction, mental, or a combination of both, the fact remains that he was just trying to share his experience in an effort to help others.

**BD67** · 10-28-2009, 06:01 PM

I think thats total bullshit. Don't ridicule the guy. Commend him for sharing his issue! That shit takes balls. Some of you need to grow up.

**Hard.On** · 10-28-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Big

I was wondering the same thing. He did something we often tell young people they shouldn't do, had a reaction he didn't like, and wanted to share that with others. regardless of whether it was a chemical reaction, mental, or a combination of both, the fact remains that he was just trying to share his experience in an effort to help others.

My only Issue with this thread is:

Lesson learned. Any teen considering STEROID use look here.

The thread title.

If I was a teen considering gear and I looked at that story, it would be expected that I am immature. This story would not steer me away from gear one bit. Most teens laughed at it(as you could see from the other comments/all rude ones clearly made by teens)

Jenkrob has probly been picked on his whole life and wanted to go on gear to stand up for himself. Anyone could sense this from reading his story and obviously like any weak kid in school/ he was going to be picked on.

If you want him to save some dignity, you should just close/delete this thread completly.

**DOM6** · 10-28-2009, 07:32 PM

I think your friend who sold you the sust took it out and replaced it with Clomid, if it was HumanGrade, id say different
alot of ugss slip a fuked 1 in there when you buy a bunch, figured that you would never know

**chitownhoker** · 10-28-2009, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Big

I was wondering the same thing. He did something we often tell young people they shouldn't do, had a reaction he didn't like, and wanted to share that with others. regardless of whether it was a chemical reaction, mental, or a combination of both, the fact remains that he was just trying to share his experience in an effort to help others.

the reason being he is faulting aas use for his emotional breakdown. he creating a false reaction to aas, a lie that people might believe at first but will find as a lie down the road and not give an credit to true information because they were falsely lead befor.....it goes along the same lines as saying weed is as bad as herion

and to spoole, like before, ITS A MENTAL thing, the ester is having no effects on your body, especially a long ester...you dont' just take some test and BAM your body start synthizing protein at rideculus rates and your body starts burning fat

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by twotimer

My only Issue with this thread is:

Lesson learned. Any teen considering STEROID use look here.

The thread title.

If I was a teen considering gear and I looked at that story, it would be expected that I am immature. This story would not steer me away from gear one bit. Most teens laughed at it(as you could see from the other comments/all rude ones clearly made by teens)

Jenkrob has probly been picked on his whole life and wanted to go on gear to stand up for himself. Anyone could sense this from reading his story and obviously like any weak kid in school/ he was going to be picked on.

If you want him to save some dignity, you should just close/delete this thread completly.

lol. no i was not made fun of in school and was always the one who people would go to for bulking help in the off seasons of football. I have always been bigger and stronger than other in high school despite being a little short for a football player. but thank you for your concern. in regards to people saying im bashing roids by blaming it im not. I am a young teen who tried my first cycle at probably the worst, most high stress time in a long time so maybe it really was mental. I was just stating my bad experience i had with them and i am not the only story. trust me i had plenty of time to research these side effect i was having because i didnt see anyone having problems around me but the holy google proved different. I read at least 5 stories of teens around my age (16-19) who had these EXACT same side effects.

**gunslinger2** · 10-28-2009, 08:19 PM

Im pretty sure you know just as much as i do about steroids

Really? I'll take that bet.

please point me in the direction of a forum where i can discuss this, here we discuss aas knowledge and as others have stated it was a mental thing with you, not an aas thing

This is what I'm saying. I'm a member of 4 bodybuilding/steroid related forums and I'm personal friends with a few guys at the local gym who have been using gear longer than either of us have been alive, and have been trainers to many hundreds of guys using steroids . Of all of these people I have yet to see or hear about one single case where someone did one injection and went psychotic.

Its all in your head bro. No one ever got huge over night by taking one pink and no one except you ever lost their mind after one injection.

**chitownhoker** · 10-28-2009, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by jenkrob

lol. no i was not made fun of in school and was always the one who people would go to for bulking help in the off seasons of football. I have always been bigger and stronger than other in high school despite being a little short for a football player. but thank you for your concern. in regards to people saying im bashing roids by blaming it im not. I am a young teen who tried my first cycle at probably the worst, most high stress time in a long time so maybe it really was mental. I was just stating my bad experience i had with them and i am not the only story. trust me i had plenty of time to research these side effect i was having because i didnt see anyone having problems around me but the holy google proved different. I read at least 5 stories of teens around my age (16-19) who had these EXACT same side effects.

for the first part....thank you for atleast considering that it might be all in your head.

secondly i would like to read these five stories about kids doing ONE single inject and feeling this way

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 08:42 PM

go on google and type it in you will find plenty of it, not hard. im not gonna spend and hour finding the articles i read just to prove some hardheaded guy who has done nothing but doubt me.

**gunslinger2** · 10-28-2009, 09:10 PM

I just went on google and can't find 5 articles about about someone losing it after a single shot. Hell I can't find one.

If they are that easy to find, post the links to the 5.

**chitownhoker** · 10-28-2009, 09:13 PM

HAHAHAHAAHHAHAH i typed in anabolic side effects after one shot...i didn't even specify age....the second choice was this thread....classic

OP your full it

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 09:13 PM

i have lost all respect for you and chit. most likely just going to delete this.

**chitownhoker** · 10-28-2009, 09:14 PM

could you atleast give me what you googled so i can find these articles....im trying to believe you son, but your making it real tough

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Big

I was wondering the same thing. He did something we often tell young people they shouldn't do, had a reaction he didn't like, and wanted to share that with others. regardless of whether it was a chemical reaction, mental, or a combination of both, the fact remains that he was just trying to share his experience in an effort to help others.

refer to this and stfu.

**gunslinger2** · 10-28-2009, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by jenkrob

refer to this and stfu.

So you are lying about 5 other cases were people your age did their first shot and lost it. You are making up stats to try to lend substance to your case.

All you have to do is post those 5 links and if they are as you say they are, I'll openly say sorry for doubting you. If you can't post those links you are the one who needs to STFU and stop posting FUD and bullshit on an otherwise good forum.

**FatalFunnel** · 10-28-2009, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by jenkrob

A little over a week ago i posted a help thread about the Sustanon 250 i decided to take. I thought i had done enough research but the truth is i did not. I took my first shot a week ago of only Sustanon 250 which is considered just a base for these juice veterans. 2nd day i was experiencing side effects so bad i was getting ready to get help from a doctor to help clear it out of me. The worst was the mood swings, i went from loving myself to having the guiltiest regret kind of feeling ive ever had. My hormones were driving me crazy, i hated everything, i missed home thus being my first year in college. I didn't want to do anything but sleep to make it go away and i couldn't do that because it would make my swings worse. I had a fever, stomach flu, drowsiness, chest pain. I dreaded every minute of being awake this past week. So all in all i am writing to you teens telling you to just be patient and listen to what these guys say, its for your own good but they have a rougher way of getting it across because they see people like me at 19 years old making a decision like this then asking for remedy from them. I am just now returning to normal thankfully. Better be safe than sorry, reach you body's limits before even thing about roids. Hope this helps turn someone away so they dont have to find out the way i did.....

Dont let these flamers get you down bro. It happens and unfortunately most teens learn the hardway. I was one of them and Ive had my share of bad experiences, at 18 yrs of age (when I took my first PH).

Wait it out bro and you'll be good. Hormones have a way of fixing themselves.

Time heals all wounds (except gyno). haha

**jenkrob** · 10-28-2009, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by gunslinger2

So you are lying about 5 other cases were people your age did their first shot and lost it. You are making up stats to try to lend substance to your case.

All you have to do is post those 5 links and if they are as you say they are, I'll openly say sorry for doubting you. If you can't post those links you are the one who needs to STFU and stop posting FUD and bullshit on an otherwise good forum.

its not fraud and im not going to spend 30 minutes finding the links to get a sorry out of someone who doesnt mean a damn thing to me so just give up and stop trying to flame. your not worth my time.

thank you for the reply funnel.

**chitownhoker** · 10-28-2009, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by gunslinger2

So you are lying about 5 other cases were people your age did their first shot and lost it. You are making up stats to try to lend substance to your case.

All you have to do is post those 5 links and if they are as you say they are, I'll openly say sorry for doubting you. If you can't post those links you are the one who needs to STFU and stop posting FUD and bullshit on an otherwise good forum.

i will also appoligize, if you can post them or point me in the right direction to find more info on it, because after my nearly 3 years of learning i havn't found any support for what happened to you or anyone else with the same experience.....so plz just show us...pretty please??

**gunslinger2** · 10-28-2009, 09:47 PM

its not fraud and im not going to spend 30 minutes finding the links to get a sorry out of someone who doesnt mean a damn thing to me so just give up and stop trying to flame. your not worth my time.

And there is the cop out of someone who has no facts to back up their story. I was waiting for that.