Oxandrolone + winstrol + deca = need your help!!!

**bambaj** · 10-28-2009, 03:18 PM

Hi all,

first of all sorry for all my mistakes here, English is not the language which I use everyday

I will appreciate your help with putting in order some of saa which my brother bought here in Europe.

He would like to create cycle from the steroids as below (already bought):

Oxandrolone (200 tabs, each 10mg)
Winstrol (20 x 50mg)
Deca Durabolin ( 10 x 200mg)

I know that some of you will say that some testosterone is missing here, but since my brother have high blode pressure - he don't want to use any test.

Also will appreciate if you could advise him smth like nolvadex , clomid, proviron ... post cycle therapy ... hope that you know what I mean.

Some info on my brother:

Age: 31
Weight: 78kg
High: 1m85cm
Experience: 2years
That is going to be 2nd cycle

Thanks in advance for all your help !

**urbanbody** · 10-28-2009, 03:22 PM

blood pressure will go up with all these especially winstrol !!

**Big** · 10-28-2009, 03:25 PM

You can not make a good cycle out of that, it's not possible.
Is the deca injectable?

**bambaj** · 10-28-2009, 03:29 PM

Yes, deca is injectable

**Big** · 10-28-2009, 03:35 PM

Ok just wanted to make sure it wasn't some fake deca pills. In any event you can't make a cycle out of that, and if blood pressure is a concern you should take the time to research each of those compounds.

**bambaj** · 10-28-2009, 03:38 PM

So, what should he change here ? I mean, what should be add or thrown away ?

**TITANIUM** · 10-28-2009, 03:39 PM

Oxandrolone (200 tabs, each 10mg)
Winstrol (20 x 50mg)
Deca Durabolin ( 10 x 200mg)

You need twice that ampunt of deca to run it @ 400 mgs for 10 wks.(400 mgs min)

You do need test, pick your type, min of 500 mgs wk.

Dump the winny, and use it for another cycle.

Same with the var, you don't have enough of any of these coumpounds to run a cycle out of them.

Best

T

**TITANIUM** · 10-28-2009, 03:41 PM

Well, as I was slowly typing, BIG hit you back.(I'm so slow at typing).

You are in very capable hands.

(BIG is great with Q&A).

Best

T

**bambaj** · 10-28-2009, 03:44 PM

Titanium thx for answer

and as per it I am waiting for BIG advice

thx

**BJJ** · 10-28-2009, 03:59 PM

This is what I am doing...
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=403234
Might be of help.

In any case with that amount of oxandrolone, you can do nothing.
Good Luck

**Slindog** · 10-28-2009, 04:03 PM

either anavar or winstrol
NOT both

**TITANIUM** · 10-28-2009, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by bambaj

Titanium thx for answer

and as per it I am waiting for BIG advice

thx

Your Welcome.

Big is here, I don't want to jack his thread, so to speak.

Best

T

**Big** · 10-28-2009, 04:31 PM

to be honest, the idea that he has high blood pressure makes me hesitant to advocate any cycle. I would need to know how high, and I would advise him to seek a consultation with a qualified doctor and discuss his plans. we only get one body, treat it with respect and don't lose track of the big picture.

**bambaj** · 10-28-2009, 04:37 PM

on the last cycle he was 160/100/70

For today (last cycle was year and the half ago) his blood pressure is around 135/88 (average)

The thing is that he is planing to take some pills (prestarium or that kind) that will get his pressure down.

**Big** · 10-28-2009, 04:43 PM

what was the last cycle?

**bambaj** · 10-28-2009, 04:46 PM

test priop + deca + winstrol

**Big** · 10-28-2009, 05:09 PM

that makes me rather curious, and this is a good example of why I (we) always advise one compound only for a first cycle. he ran 3 compounds, had an adverse reaction, what would lead him to believe it was only the test that caused the problem?