more than 1 oral or not?

**birdlegz** · 10-31-2009, 09:15 AM

Getting ready to start a mild cycle and need help fitting in the oral. I have 300 10mg Tbols and 200 10mg dbols. I cant decide which to use or if i should try and use both. The rest of the cycle looks like this:
Test E 500mg/week 1-10
Deca 300mg/week 1-10
1. considered the dbol at 40mg/day wks 1-5 (and save the tbol)
2. considered the tbol at 50mg/day wks 1-6 (and save the dbol)
3. or a split of the dbol. 40mg/day wks 1-3 and 40 mg/day wks 7-10 (no tbol)
4. or a split of dbol 40 mg/day wks 1-3 and tbol at 50mg/day wks 6-10

stats: 28yo, 4th cycle, 12% bf, 6'0 185lbs

what do you think?

**tboney** · 10-31-2009, 09:16 AM

What are your goals?

**birdlegz** · 10-31-2009, 09:19 AM

gain strength and retain muscle gains

**tboney** · 10-31-2009, 09:24 AM

I believe that the gains you get from tbol are more lasting than those with dbol . I am not a fan of running orals for more than 4 to 6 weeks, let alone two orals. Thats just me.........

**birdlegz** · 10-31-2009, 09:30 AM

I would think the split of dbol wks 1-3 and tbol wks 6-10 would provide the most quality gains, but i dont want to put the liver under too much stress. I just dont know if 3 wks is enough down time before starting another oral in the same cycle

**tboney** · 10-31-2009, 09:38 AM

Thats my point. I dont like to put my liver under alot of stress. Also I believe that tbol gains are mmore lasting than dbol ..

**MSB** · 10-31-2009, 09:46 AM

I just started TBol and Anavar at 40mg each, but I guess DBol is probably much "harsher" than Var.

**tboney** · 10-31-2009, 09:51 AM

I agree.

**birdlegz** · 10-31-2009, 02:03 PM

Since tbol is generally used to promote lean lasting gains without harsh side effects and dbol is generally used at the beginning of cycle for kickstarting big muscle growth with as little as 20mg/day. why not try something like this:

Test E 500mg/wk weeks 1-10
Deca 300mg/wk weeks 1-10
Dbol 20mg/day with tbol 40mg/day weeks 1-3 and 8-10

This would keep dbol harshness to a minimum and would also help maintain muscle gains due to spreading out the use of the tbol

Am i an idiot or does this kinda make since? I realize there are probably other better ways of accomlishing my goals but how can i get the best results from these compounds?

**Hobbitjones** · 10-31-2009, 06:26 PM

not to thread jack but how do you actually take the dbol ??? are you supposed to just let it dissolve under tounge or just swallow the little thing?? i've heard both?? id say just run the test e and dbol. The more orals you take the more your liver is gonna hate you.

**dec11** · 10-31-2009, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Hobbitjones

not to thread jack but how do you actually take the dbol??? are you supposed to just let it dissolve under tounge or just swallow the little thing?? i've heard both?? id say just run the test e and dbol. The more orals you take the more your liver is gonna hate you.

swallow, you seriousily nd to research

**dec11** · 10-31-2009, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by birdlegz

Since tbol is generally used to promote lean lasting gains without harsh side effects and dbol is generally used at the beginning of cycle for kickstarting big muscle growth with as little as 20mg/day. why not try something like this:

Test E 500mg/wk weeks 1-10
Deca 300mg/wk weeks 1-10
Dbol 20mg/day with tbol 40mg/day weeks 1-3 and 8-10

This would keep dbol harshness to a minimum and would also help maintain muscle gains due to spreading out the use of the tbol

Am i an idiot or does this kinda make since? I realize there are probably other better ways of accomlishing my goals but how can i get the best results from these compounds?

the test would need to be run 2wks longer than deca, as for the two orals its gen not advised

**Hobbitjones** · 10-31-2009, 06:42 PM

i have done research but thats not included in how to or the dosages lol.

**number twelve** · 10-31-2009, 06:45 PM

i might kick start with the dbol then run the tbol at the end to harden up.

**dec11** · 10-31-2009, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by number twelve

i might kick start with the dbol then run the tbol at the end to harden up.

like tht, not 2getha

**dec11** · 10-31-2009, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Hobbitjones

i have done research but thats not included in how to or the dosages lol.

dbol sub lingual, c'mon man, y wud you ask tht if you've researched?

**Hazard** · 10-31-2009, 07:01 PM

I chew all my orals and then swallow.....

I have a problem swallowing pills so i do what I gotta do. Upon researching myself..... i've found a lot of guys actually chew their pills rather than swallow whole.....

~Haz~

**james21** · 10-31-2009, 07:03 PM

tbol + var

**Zeraph** · 11-02-2009, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by number twelve

i might kick start with the dbol then run the tbol at the end to harden up.

I agree, as most people only use Dbol as a kick start for their mass gaining cycles. I was actually planning something similar and im glad this came up. I aready have the Dbol, and was either going to run it for the first 3 weeks then go to the Tbol, or maybe just stack the Tbol with Stanozolol , and save the rest of the D for a later bulking cycle.