Advice for Next Cycle

**BigJames** · 11-17-2009, 05:08 PM

Hey bros, it has been a while since I have been on the forums. A couple of injuries took me out of the game for a while and now I am back and hitting things hard again. I am lining up a third cycle, aiming to hit it sometime in the spring. I did Test E the first time at 500/wk, Test E (600/wk) with Eq (400/wk) the second time, and this time I am thinking about Test E with Tren .

I really liked the Eq and may do that cycle again with slight bumps in the totals per week, but I am considering Tren after all the good stuff I have read about it.

I am thinking about a 12-13 week cycle with the Test E running around 650-750 a week. My question is, how much Tren per week should I stack with it?

Thoughts on this? Should I hit the tren or should I do another round with Eq...maybe something like Test E @ 750/wk and Eq @ 500/wk?

Thoughts? Oh...and it is so good to be back!

**CHUCKYthentic** · 11-17-2009, 06:18 PM

welcome back

i think you could potentially be ready for tren . u had similar cycle exp as me when i started tren. DEFINITELY go with tren acetate, not enth for 1st time IMO. that way if u cant handle the sides it can be out of ur system in 2 days as opposed to 2 weeks

what are your current stats at?

goals with this cycle?

**BigJames** · 11-17-2009, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

welcome back

i think you could potentially be ready for tren . u had similar cycle exp as me when i started tren. DEFINITELY go with tren acetate, not enth for 1st time IMO. that way if u cant handle the sides it can be out of ur system in 2 days as opposed to 2 weeks

what are your current stats at?

goals with this cycle?

Thanks man! As I said, it is good to be back. I was thinking I might be ready for it as well and I have heard good things and I am absolutely fine with EOD injects. I was leaning towards Tren A, but a little more research today, changed my mind...the ONLY thing about tren that worries me is the prolactin sides...prolactin has cause me some issues naturally due to odd behaviour on my pituatary that my endocrinologist has chalked up to a tiny benign tumour....anyway...that makes me lean towards using Eq again, but more aggressively...maybe closer to 600mg/wk along with the Test E.

Current Stats:
33 Y/O
240lbs
6'2"
~16% BF

I am planning on hitting the cycle in 5 - 6 months (around March / April). Time to really get back in routine after the recent injuries and be in better shape when I hit the gear.

As I mentioned, the prolactin sides worry me a little...and as such, I am still considering Eq seriously, because Test/Eq worked really well for me last time....gained 20+ lbs of solid lean mass and I was REALLY strong.

**BigJames** · 11-17-2009, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

welcome back

i think you could potentially be ready for tren . u had similar cycle exp as me when i started tren. DEFINITELY go with tren acetate, not enth for 1st time IMO. that way if u cant handle the sides it can be out of ur system in 2 days as opposed to 2 weeks

what are your current stats at?

goals with this cycle?

Also...congrats on the new job bro! I just read about it in the other thread!

**CHUCKYthentic** · 11-17-2009, 06:41 PM

thanks man!

well there are ways to combat the prolactin as im sure u know. if it is really that serious of a prob abd if your doc has advised u to steer clear from any possible probs, then i dont want to be the one to say "just do it" haha

but ya man, some love EQ, some hate it. i use to love it...till i tried tren hahaha

stats look good.

do u plan on incorporating hcg on cycle?

gyno prone at all?

wht kind of pct do u usually run?

**BigJames** · 11-17-2009, 06:53 PM

I was on dr prescribed cabergnol for a while...it seems I just operate naturally with low natural test levels and slightly elevated prolactin levels. I will have to weigh this out and make the decision on my own...

Tren is so tempting...LOL.

I have never run HCG . I usually run some daily nolva throughout the cycle (starting 1 week before the cycle to set levels). I used letro in the past, but it KILLS my sex drive. I have not had gyno issues since puberty.

PCT: I have had great success with nolva and tribulus. It was a long time ago that I did my last cycle, but I recall doing 20mg of nolva a day for about a month after the cycle ended along with 3g of trib a day (which I start 2 weeks before the last injection to get the boys working a little). All shrinkage was gone in a few days and all was well. Held on to a lot of my mass as well.

**vincor** · 11-17-2009, 07:03 PM

How long did you run your second cycle for? I too am thinking of running Test and EQ but still doing so research. I was going to be going with Test P but am leaning more with Test E.

**TITANIUM** · 11-17-2009, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by BigJames

I was on dr prescribed cabergnol for a while...it seems I just operate naturally with low natural test levels and slightly elevated prolactin levels. I will have to weigh this out and make the decision on my own...

Tren is so tempting...LOL.

I have never run HCG . I usually run some daily nolva throughout the cycle (starting 1 week before the cycle to set levels). I used letro in the past, but it KILLS my sex drive. I have not had gyno issues since puberty.

PCT: I have had great success with nolva and tribulus. It was a long time ago that I did my last cycle, but I recall doing 20mg of nolva a day for about a month after the cycle ended along with 3g of trib a day (which I start 2 weeks before the last injection to get the boys working a little). All shrinkage was gone in a few days and all was well. Held on to a lot of my mass as well.

I would def try HCG during cycle, and add clomid in with that PCT.

Best

T

**CHUCKYthentic** · 11-17-2009, 07:04 PM

i love caber. did the prescribed caber due the trick and work well?

HCG on cycle is great in aiding recovery and keep your FSH and LH functioning on cycle. i am a huge advocate of it on cycle now after some of the articles i have read. low dose like 125-250iu 2-3 times a week is very moderate and one should respond well to it

as for nolva on cycle, kinda old school, some do. prevents estrogen from binding to the receptors. BUT arimidex helps out A LOT more than that. shouldnt kill your sex drive @ a low dose of .25 -.5 mg EOD. i run it on cycle. letro is def overkill, best if u get full blown gyno

def look into upgrading that pct though. clomid has some great benefits in restoring your FSH and LH. i can post some great reads if you would like man on HCG and PCT

**TITANIUM** · 11-17-2009, 07:06 PM

Sorry Chucky, you got this one.

What's up bro????

This is your post.

Best

T

**CHUCKYthentic** · 11-17-2009, 07:08 PM

no no sir have at it my man!

doin well man, received some great news 2day, posted a thread on it in the lounge if u want to check it out

how are u doin?

**TITANIUM** · 11-17-2009, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

no no sir have at it my man!

doin well man, received some great news 2day, posted a thread on it in the lounge if u want to check it out

how are u doin?

OK, just busy as hell @ work.

It happens.

I'll bounce to the lounge and check it out.

T

**TITANIUM** · 11-17-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

i love caber. did the prescribed caber due the trick and work well?

HCG on cycle is great in aiding recovery and keep your FSH and LH functioning on cycle. i am a huge advocate of it on cycle now after some of the articles i have read. low dose like 125-250iu 2-3 times a week is very moderate and one should respond well to it

as for nolva on cycle, kinda old school, some do. prevents estrogen from binding to the receptors. BUT arimidex helps out A LOT more than that. shouldnt kill your sex drive @ a low dose of .25 -.5 mg EOD. i run it on cycle. letro is def overkill, best if u get full blown gyno

def look into upgrading that pct though. clomid has some great benefits in restoring your FSH and LH. i can post some great reads if you would like man on HCG and PCT

Bingo!^^^^^

Best

T

**BigJames** · 11-24-2009, 04:42 PM

Sorry guys...did not have a chance to jump on here for a few days...super busy.

The script of caber did the trick, but I could not stay on it long term...it is REALLY expensive.

I will research the Arimidex and see what it is all about. Thanks for that tip. Yeah, the Letro killed my sex drive pretty good. Powerful stuff.

I weighed Clomid vs. Nolva and I thought I read that Clomid actually supresses the natural processes of the HTPA, but maybe I misread it? Anyway, I will def grab some clomid for the PCT and research some HCG as well.

Thanks bros!

**BigJames** · 11-24-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by vincor

How long did you run your second cycle for? I too am thinking of running Test and EQ but still doing so research. I was going to be going with Test P but am leaning more with Test E.

Second cycle was 13 weeks of Test E and Eq as follows:

Test E 700mg/wk 13 weeks
Eq 400 mg/wk 13 weeks

I front loaded both compounds for 2 weeks (basically doubled the dose for the first two weeks). It seemed to help get it kick in quicker.

I got really, really strong on this stack. I was starting to look freaky thick by the end and really vascular which was awesome.

**Buschlightcan** · 11-24-2009, 06:11 PM

Add PCT

**BigJames** · 11-25-2009, 04:58 PM

Sorry bros...rookie mistake. I have been off this forum for way to long.

Anyway, my PCT on the cycle above was:

Nolva 20 mg/day for 6 weeks
Tribulus 3000mg/day (5 on / 2 off) for 6 weeks

Full recovery was fast...I started the trib about 2 weeks before the end of my cycle so it would start activating things sooner than later. Held on to my mass and strength really well.

**BJJ** · 11-25-2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by BigJames

Sorry guys...did not have a chance to jump on here for a few days...super busy.

The script of caber did the trick, but I could not stay on it long term...it is REALLY expensive.

I will research the Arimidex and see what it is all about. Thanks for that tip. Yeah, the Letro killed my sex drive pretty good. Powerful stuff.

I weighed Clomid vs. Nolva and I thought I read that Clomid actually supresses the natural processes of the HTPA, but maybe I misread it? Anyway, I will def grab some clomid for the PCT and research some HCG as well.

Thanks bros!

**BigJames** · 11-25-2009, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Yes. I am not recommending this PCT over any other PCT plan, I did some reading about which compounds are best for PCT before I did my first cycle and there was a school of thought that Nolva alone for PCT was sufficient. This was supported by several senior members on the site at the time so I went with it and it worked for me.

I am not suggesting for or against it, I am just saying what I did and why. I will likely add clomid in my next cycle to see how it works for me.

**BJJ** · 11-26-2009, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by BigJames

Yes. I am not recommending this PCT over any other PCT plan, I did some reading about which compounds are best for PCT before I did my first cycle and there was a school of thought that Nolva alone for PCT was sufficient. This was supported by several senior members on the site at the time so I went with it and it worked for me.

I am not suggesting for or against it, I am just saying what I did and why. I will likely add clomid in my next cycle to see how it works for me.

Thanks for your explanation.

Did you have a blood work done to see if everything was OK?

**BigJames** · 01-20-2010, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Thanks for your explanation.

Did you have a blood work done to see if everything was OK?

Yes to the blood work and all was well...well...all was as it was before the cycle. I have naturally low test levels with various theories from various specialists as to why, but if the theories are correct, then I run with low levels by design somehow, and I was 100% back to "normal" post PCT.

I am going to stick with Test and Eq this time around assuming I can get both...if I cannot get Eq, I will consider the Tren Ace and see how that goes...

Later bros...and belated happy new year!