12 month cycle? @ 250mg test e /wk

**daniel_3855** · 11-18-2009, 02:08 PM

has anyone done a cycle at 250mg/ wk for 12 months?

iam thinking of it will be my 3rd cycle

will be on clen for the 12 months also as this will be a cutter.

reason for the test is to stop mucle loss and add a little mucle while cutting up to the fullest

**chitownhoker** · 11-18-2009, 02:17 PM

stats?

and why wld you cut for 12 months?

**chuckt12345** · 11-18-2009, 02:19 PM

why stop at 12? may as well keep goin til your 80

**daniel_3855** · 11-18-2009, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by chitownhoker

stats?

and why wld you cut for 12 months?

coz when i done my 1st cutter cycle of test e for 12 weeks at 500mg /wk i lost alot of bf from 17% down to 12% then i done a 16/wk bulker sust and deca and put alot of fat on so now its time to cut and stay cut iam now 15% bf and i rate it will take me 12 months to get down to 8ish without loosing to much mucle...

age 25
5ft 9
14 stone
2 pre cycles

**Hazard** · 11-18-2009, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

why stop at 12? may as well keep goin til your 80

LMFAO!

To the OP..... it should not take you 12 months to cut up LOL..... maybe 3-4 for stage quality.... All around bad idea I say.....

~Haz~

**daniel_3855** · 11-18-2009, 02:36 PM

oh and what really gets on my tits is when doing standard 12/wk cycles is i always loose most of my mucle gains.... my pct is always bang on!!

**Hazard** · 11-18-2009, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by daniel_3855

coz when i done my 1st cutter cycle of test e for 12 weeks at 500mg /wk i lost alot of bf from 17% down to 12% then i done a 16/wk bulker sust and deca and put alot of fat on so now its time to cut and stay cut iam now 15% bf and i rate it will take me 12 months to get down to 8ish without loosing to much mucle...

age 25
5ft 9
14 stone
2 pre cycles

Oh boy.....

Try eating cleaner when bulking..... eat even cleaner when cutting... and do cardio! It's not hard to lose 5% BF unless you are already 10%.....

~Haz~

**daniel_3855** · 11-18-2009, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

LMFAO!

To the OP..... it should not take you 12 months to cut up LOL..... maybe 3-4 for stage quality.... All around bad idea I say.....

~Haz~

ok ok think will just do a 12 week test e cycle again then but this time with the clen ... but then its the thought of loosing most of my gains again!!!!

**stokedv** · 11-18-2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by daniel_3855

oh and what really gets on my tits is when doing standard 12/wk cycles is i always loose most of my mucle gains.... my pct is always bang on!!

If pct is "bang on" is diet "bang on" cuz you shouldnt lose a lot from test-e if you eat bang on and train bang on...

**Hazard** · 11-18-2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by daniel_3855

ok ok think will just do a 12 week test e cycle again then but this time with the clen... but then its the thought of loosing most of my gains again!!!!

HCG durring cycle..... nolva/clomid PCT - shouldn't lose too much fi you're doing it right.

You need to research a bit more IMO..... It wouldn't hurt.....

~Haz~

**daniel_3855** · 11-18-2009, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Hazard

Oh boy.....

Try eating cleaner when bulking..... eat even cleaner when cutting... and do cardio! It's not hard to lose 5% BF unless you are already 10%.....

~Haz~

my bulker was dirty my fault but even after the bulker i lost most of my gains....i gained like 30lbs then only kept 10 but alot of that was fat.

**chuckt12345** · 11-18-2009, 02:47 PM

no matter how good you eat, how good you train, or how good your pct was your always gonna start losing mass. You just have to accept it and get to a weight you can keep naturally and feel good about it

**daniel_3855** · 11-18-2009, 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Hazard;4951318]HCG durring cycle..... nolva/clomid PCT - shouldn't lose too much fi you're doing it right.

You need to research a bit more IMO..... It wouldn't hurt.....

~Haz~[/QUOTE

done researching on pct... example of my pct

nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50
adex 25/25/25/25

= most gains lost

never ran hcg is that the missing thing i wonder as why iam loosing all my gains?

would i need to run hcg on a standard test e cycle??

**Hazard** · 11-18-2009, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

no matter how good you eat, how good you train, or how good your pct was your always gonna start losing mass. You just have to accept it and get to a weight you can keep naturally and feel good about it

Correct..... I eat quite a bit and can maintain 225lbs or so without being on cycle...... I'm currently trying to get to 250lbs but that aint comming naturally LOL

~Haz~

**chuckt12345** · 11-18-2009, 02:51 PM

[QUOTE=daniel_3855;4951326]

Originally Posted by Hazard

HCG durring cycle..... nolva/clomid PCT - shouldn't lose too much fi you're doing it right.

You need to research a bit more IMO..... It wouldn't hurt.....

~Haz~[/QUOTE

done researching on pct... example of my pct

nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50
adex 25/25/25/25

= most gains lost

never ran hcg is that the missing thing i wonder as why iam loosing all my gains?

would i need to run hcg on a standard test e cycle??

your body can only mantain a certain amount of muscle naturally. Unless you consider eating perfectly for the rest of your life stuffing down shite you dont wanna eat 8 times a day natural then its not gonna happen. Thats why people continue to use aas,, is very addicting psychologically.

**Mooseman33** · 11-18-2009, 02:56 PM

12 months of clen ...

i would drop fvking dead..

even considering a 12 month cutting cycle tells me u should slow down and really hit the research man..

**tboney** · 11-18-2009, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

12 months of clen ...

i would drop fvking dead..

even considering a 12 month cutting cycle tells me u should slow down and really hit the research man..

Do not use adex in your pct...... You need to read up a bit man.

**daniel_3855** · 11-19-2009, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by tboney

Do not use adex in your pct...... You need to read up a bit man.

if i dont use adex in pct i start to get sore nips. so adex is a must for me.

**daniel_3855** · 11-19-2009, 01:11 PM

would hcg be needed is a standard test e cycle?

also say if i was 8% bf and done a cycle would i have a better chance on keeping my gains then if i was 15% bf.

is it the lower the bf the better the gaines?

**dec11** · 11-19-2009, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

no matter how good you eat, how good you train, or how good your pct was your always gonna start losing mass. You just have to accept it and get to a weight you can keep naturally and feel good about it

exactly, most of us kp very little frm each cycle if we are honest, its a long term game

**dec11** · 11-19-2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by daniel_3855

would hcg be needed is a standard test e cycle?

also say if i was 8% bf and done a cycle would i have a better chance on keeping my gains then if i was 15% bf.

is it the lower the bf the better the gaines?

by cutting dwn on bf, u will actually look bigger

**PistolStarta** · 11-19-2009, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by daniel_3855

if i dont use adex in pct i start to get sore nips. so adex is a must for me.

you get sore nips in your PCT and not cycle ever?

**daniel_3855** · 11-19-2009, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by PistolStarta

you get sore nips in your PCT and not cycle ever?

kind of... when i start cycle as soon as start geting sore nip i add in some adex the rest of the way... my 1st cycle i added it in but stoped it at the start of pct and what a bad mistake as my nips started to get very sore then 2 weeks into pct a added it back in and then sore nips went away