Oxandrolone & Primobolan Together? HELP please

**Lil 1** · 12-19-2009, 12:50 PM

Hi,
I'm hoping somone with experience with these two compounds can tell me what they experienced when using them together. How were your gains? What are your thoughts about them? Any advice that I SHOULD know? Thanks.

**TITANIUM** · 12-19-2009, 01:00 PM

Stats?

Best

T

**Lil 1** · 12-19-2009, 02:47 PM

27
178
5'10"
bodyfat is definately low but i'm not sure exactly.

**BJJ** · 12-19-2009, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lil 1

27
178
5'10"
bodyfat is definately low but i'm not sure exactly.

A picture would help out.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 12-19-2009, 04:14 PM

Thoughts: expensive

Using them together = broke

**CHUCKYthentic** · 12-19-2009, 04:15 PM

any AAS experience?

**Lil 1** · 12-19-2009, 05:16 PM

Anyone of you guys actually used these compounds before?

**BJJ** · 12-19-2009, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Lil 1

Anyone of you guys actually used these compounds before?

Only Oxandrolone here.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 12-19-2009, 05:19 PM

ive used var and i know BJJ has too. TITANIUM may have....?

you should answer our Qs 1st so we can give u further advice please

**Lil 1** · 12-19-2009, 05:40 PM

Right. Yes I have experience. Deca only cycle 200mg/wk for 6 weeks. I'm aware it was foolish in many ways. Looking to do things properly now...

**Lil 1** · 12-19-2009, 05:41 PM

What more can I tell you before you decide to share any information with me?

**CHUCKYthentic** · 12-19-2009, 05:55 PM

ya that is what i was lookin for, any past AAS experience

well a lot of things i could tell you here...

primo and var CAN be run alone and not be harsh on you HPTA. in your case, id advise you just picking one for right now if those are your only options.

that said, id suggest anavar ... BJJ kept a log of an anavar only cycle and it proved to be great as well as very informational/educational

var is expensive and you do need a lot IMO

primo is great from what i hear. i mean you could go with that... same case though, expensive and IF you find good primo you re lucky

will still need a planned PCT

what about a test only cycle, given that any thought?

**Lil 1** · 12-19-2009, 06:00 PM

I planed to use the pct protocol laid out in the PCT by Steroid .com thread. Look it up if you wish.
Yes I did consider test very strongly...was looking to avoid the hairloss factor. From my research so far it seems these two compounds show less sides.
I was a little skeptical so I decided to ask experienced users what they experienced.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 12-19-2009, 06:01 PM

ANAVAR Cycle (for those interested)

^^^here is BJJ's anavar cycle log

BJJ, hope you dont mind me advertisin this brother haha but its too great of a log not to

**TITANIUM** · 12-19-2009, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

ive used var and i know BJJ has too. TITANIUM may have....?

you should answer our Qs 1st so we can give u further advice please

Var-yes.

I can't see running these to together.

Money wise or not.

You need alot of each to get any benefit from it.

If taken in those quantities, they WILL shut your HPTA down.

PCT will be needed.

If you stack, say the primo together with a test, like prop, you will see better results.

I think that Chucky nailed this with a test only cycle for now.

I like to keep things simple, so I can track the sides.

Var is a great steroid , and it is attractive for it's attributes.

With that said, the decision is up to you.

Did you have your blood work done after that deca only cycle?

Just curious.

Best

T

**Lil 1** · 12-19-2009, 06:41 PM

No I havent. That was 9 years ago...
IMO test seems to cause too severe hairloss...MPB is a problem for me.

**BJJ** · 12-20-2009, 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

ANAVAR Cycle (for those interested)

^^^here is BJJ's anavar cycle log

BJJ, hope you dont mind me advertisin this brother haha but its too great of a log not to

Actually the meaning of that thread, as reported on post n.1, was/is/will be to inform and share.
So, I am glad you did while I was sleeping

**soo2bhuge** · 01-31-2010, 05:37 PM

I ran both of them together, as well as separately. Before and after the cycle where I did them both together, I had the blood work done and surprisingly enough, my natural test only went down about 70-80ng.
I train bjj, so I was looking for strength benefits, rather than size. I ran primo at 750mg/week and var at 70mg/day (started at 50mg and worked my way up to 70mg). I had been coming off several surgeries related to sports so I needed a bit of boost and confidence on the mats and for me, this was a great cycle.
To be completely honest with you, I maybe gained 10lb max in 10 weeks, but like I said, that's not what I was looking for. I found it very helpful in the strength department without too much affect on my cardio, although I will say that I couldn't go as hard for as long as I used to; then again...it may have been due to a long layoff due to surgeries.
Obviously I did alot of cardio during this time, primarily in bjj and I hardly did any lifting, other than pushups, pullups, and mostly cable machines for strenth and muscle endurance rather than size. I'm sure that had I concentrated on strictly weighlifting, I would have probably gained more muscle. I am prone to lose/gain muscle fairly easy depending on my goals.
I personally liked the cycle, NOT the price, and look to do it again, but probably with the addition of test since I have gotten a bit older since I ran this cycle and possibly some HGH. I would say that test and HGH are the most used in bjj.
I definitely also enjoyed the hardened/vascular look, without much adjusting in my diet.
I would recommend this cycle to you, but I know that everyone reacts different to different substances.
For me...it didn't really shut me down like many claim a non-test cycle, involving var only, would. But to each is own and you may react differently.