is this a good second cycle?

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 12-27-2009, 02:58 PM

I am going for more lean mass and also hopefully to lose a little fat

age 24
5'9 1/3
190lbs
one previous cycle (500mg test-e for 12 weeks)

week 1-10 test-e 500mg
week 1-5 tbol 80mg
week 6-10 anavar 80mg

thoughts?

**stpete** · 12-27-2009, 04:27 PM

Don't like it....

I remember you just finished a cycle right? I can't remember the compounds but i thought it was test e.

Why not try a nice 12 weeker consisting of test, d-bol, deca /npp? You won't be disappointed.

**gymnerd** · 12-27-2009, 05:28 PM

Yeh I dont like it either too much orals is this a cut or bulk? I would really recomend npp.

Tbol 60mg ed 1-5 or dbol 30 ed

Test E 500mg 1-12

Npp 400mg 3-12

That would work much better IMO.

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 12-27-2009, 05:54 PM

im kind of hoping it can be both a bulk and a cut. the most important thing is the get shredded but i would also like more lean mass gains. that is why im not sold on that suggested cycle gymnerd, but thanks for the option

**gymnerd** · 12-27-2009, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg

im kind of hoping it can be both a bulk and a cut. the most important thing is the get shredded but i would also like more lean mass gains. that is why im not sold on that suggested cycle gymnerd, but thanks for the option

If you try to bulk and cut in the same cycle you will most likely be disappointed with the results IMO. What dont you like about my cycle?

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 12-27-2009, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by gymnerd

If you try to bulk and cut in the same cycle you will most likely be disappointed with the results IMO. What dont you like about my cycle?

dont you think it would cause some bloat? i know npp doesnt cause as much as deca but still...

**CHUCKYthentic** · 12-27-2009, 06:47 PM

I personally dont think it looks bad... could change a few things though

maybe go tbol 1-4 then var 7 or 8 through week 12, run it up to the day before you start PCT

run some liv52 in btwn the 2 orals. var and tbol are both very mild orals so wouldnt be too harsh

**AlphaMaleDawg** · 12-27-2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

Don't like it....

I remember you just finished a cycle right? I can't remember the compounds but i thought it was test e.

Why not try a nice 12 weeker consisting of test, d-bol, deca/npp? You won't be disappointed.

i finished test e only a few months ago. I would be starting this one a month from now

Originally Posted by CHUCKYthentic

I personally dont think it looks bad... could change a few things though

maybe go tbol 1-4 then var 7 or 8 through week 12, run it up to the day before you start PCT

run some liv52 in btwn the 2 orals. var and tbol are both very mild orals so wouldnt be too harsh

i only have time for 10 weeks because I will be away for a week mid april with no access to gear. maybe tbol week 1-4 and var 6-10? 80mg of both?