2nd Cycle look OK?

[kizza234]

28
205
10 years experience
2nd cycle, goals are to add some lean mass (220-225)

First Cycle
Test E 1-10 500 mg/wk .25ADEX ED
Winny 50mg ed 9-12
PCT
clomid 100/75/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

First cycle was great, got very strong, and just some acne during the first couple weeks of PCT

2nd Cycle
Test E 500 mg/wk 1-12
NPP 300mg/wk 1-10
Winny 50 mg ed 11-14
PCT SAME - maybe 100/50/50/25 on the clomid idk...

My only question is about the NPP... Should I run more for a shorter amount of time? say 350mg/wk 1-9?

What is the rationale for WHEN you stop the NPP in relation to the Test?

[laduem88]

28
205
10 years experience
2nd cycle, goals are to add some lean mass (220-225)

First Cycle
Test E 1-10 500 mg/wk
Winny 50mg ed 9-12
PCT
clomid 100/75/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

First cycle was great, got very strong, and just some acne during the first couple weeks of PCT

2nd Cycle
Test E 500 mg/wk 1-12
NPP 300mg/wk 1-10
Winny 50 mg ed 11-14
PCT SAME - maybe 100/50/50/25 on the clomid idk...

My only question is about the NPP... Should I run more for a shorter amount of time? say 350mg/wk 1-9?

What is the rationale for WHEN you stop the NPP in relation to the Test?

either switch from NPP to deca or from test e to test p

[kizza234]

Is the only reason is they have the same frequency of pinning?

[laduem88]

Is the only reason is they have the same frequency of pinning?

well that plus the NPP would be kicking in before the test. you want to have short esters with short esters and long esters with long esters

[kizza234]

What if you were to run the NPP later say weeks 4-11

.. just curious.

[laduem88]

What if you were to run the NPP later say weeks 4-11

.. just curious.

i wouldn't, id just do what i said in my first post

[kizza234]

Would I benefit from Deca for 10 weeks? I was reading it needs to be at least 12.

[laduem88]

why not just do test p/npp? personally i dont like long ester cycles for the following reasons:

1. takes awhile to kick in
2. takes awhile to start pct
3. since it takes longer to kick in, you have to stay on longer which means you have to take more time off between cycles.

[kizza234]

I really want to do test P/Npp (or at least really want to run NPP instead of Deca ), but for some reason a comparable test e/deca for me is much cheaper..

[kizza234]

due to the concentrations of each, test p/npp would require 7 vials, and test e/deca just 3

[laduem88]

cant talk prices, edit those numbers out.

if its a big difference just do test e and deca

[kizza234]

my bad.. thanks

[Aizen Sosuke]

You could also shoot the test e everyother day 1/2 cc along with the npp. I'd go with prop if I were you for faster results. Good luck.

[kizza234]

So here are the options...

1) Test E 12 weeks, Deca 10 weeks

2) Test E with frontload 11 weeks, NPP 9 weeks

3) Test E 12 weeks 1/2 cc eod, NPP 10 weeks

4) Test E weeks 1-12, NPP weeks 3-10

I KNOW the more efficient way is test P and i'm making this more difficult with the test E... but out of those choices should I just stick to the test e/deca?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

go with test e/deca . its the same cycle I am about to start and its also my second cycle

[Aizen Sosuke]

You can't go wrong with test e and deca . It's one of the most tried stacks out there

[kizza234]

sounds good.

So i'm reading it should be ran for at least 12 weeks... Would it be beneficial to run it weeks 1-10?

[Aizen Sosuke]

I'd go with 12 weeks for deca and 14 for testosterone . On another note how did you like your first cycle? I'm in week 5 of that same stack right now. Thanks

[kizza234]

It was great... 195-215, bench from 315-360... I have before-after pics on my profile.. Just a little acne in the shoulders first couple weeks of pct, and zero sex drive for a few weeks