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    Please critique my first cycle idea.

    First off, I am new to the forum, but have been doing some research for a couple months now.

    I am:

    5'9 175lbs
    Around 13% bodyfat( I was way off on my first post )
    I am 24 years old
    I have been working out since high school. Starting to get more serious about it now.


    I believe from what I have read that a Test-E cycle would be good for my first cycle.

    - 500mg/week for 10 - 12 weeks?

    For my PCT I will do a cycle of Clomid

    - 50mg daily for 4 weeks?


    I'll keep a AI on hand during the cycle.



    I've also been told that taking Dbol for the first 4 weeks of my cycle could be a good idea to give it a good kick in the ass, but I'm getting mixed reviews.

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    Your body fat percentages keep changing, bro, which is it, 6%, 8% or 13%?

    Not giving you a hard time...just trying to be able to give you honest advice.

    but in general, the cycle looks fine, dbol in the beginning is optional, and your pct could use a little work, namely, the addition of another SERM like nolva.

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    Read up on PCT add some nolva. I assume you will be doing two injections per week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Your body fat percentages keep changing, bro, which is it, 6%, 8% or 13%?

    Not giving you a hard time...just trying to be able to give you honest advice.

    but in general, the cycle looks fine, dbol in the beginning is optional, and your pct could use a little work, namely, the addition of another SERM like nolva.

    I'm sorry, I thought I said I wasn't sure in my first post?
    I was able to get the right % tonight at the gym. I'm positive it is around 13%.

    Alright I will read up on the Nolva. I am at a cross between Clomi or Tamox(Nolva). Or hell both?

    Its hard to really understand, because there are so many mixed opinions on what is best.

    If this were your first cycle would you include dbol ?
    Last edited by Oakleys; 01-19-2010 at 09:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    Read up on PCT add some nolva. I assume you will be doing two injections per week?
    Yes, two 250 shots a week.

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    I would stick with test only the first go. Dose it 250mg every 3 1/2 days. Eg Monday morning and Thursday evening. This will keep your blood levels stable and help avoid potential sides. Also, you need some arimidex in case sides present themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartans09 View Post
    I would stick with test only the first go. Dose it 250mg every 3 1/2 days. Eg Monday morning and Thursday evening. This will keep your blood levels stable and help avoid potential sides. Also, you need some arimidex in case sides present themselves.



    Yes, I planned on 3 day intervals. Check on the arimidex .

    Thanks for the post!

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    Test only is great first cycle, you should grow like a weed with the right diet/training/rest.

    It's refreshing to see someone who does their research...good luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Test only is great first cycle, you should grow like a weed with the right diet/training/rest.

    It's refreshing to see someone who does their research...good luck with it.
    Thank you for giving me quick replies, I really appreciate it.


    But I am still getting mixed reviews on the SERM end. Should I use Clomi and Tomax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakleys View Post
    Thank you for giving me quick replies, I really appreciate it.


    But I am still getting mixed reviews on the SERM end. Should I use Clomi and Tomax?
    Yes. A pretty standard pct is:

    clomid 100/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/40/40

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Yes. A pretty standard pct is:

    clomid 100/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/40/40
    Thank you very much!

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    anytime, bro

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    I'm bringing this thread back up.

    I finally found a reputable place to buy from.


    I'm dumb, and I am having trouble converting how many mg's there are in a ml.


    I need to know this so I can purchase the correct amount for a 10 week cycle.


    "Each 10ml Vial contains
    250mg/ml testosterone enanthate "


    Now, I am curious on how many Vials I will need for my cycle.


    Also, this will be my first time injecting anything on my own. Is there any *stickied* threads that has some good tips for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakleys View Post
    I'm bringing this thread back up.

    I finally found a reputable place to buy from.


    I'm dumb, and I am having trouble converting how many mg's there are in a ml.


    I need to know this so I can purchase the correct amount for a 10 week cycle.


    "Each 10ml Vial contains
    250mg/ml testosterone enanthate "


    Now, I am curious on how many Vials I will need for my cycle.


    Also, this will be my first time injecting anything on my own. Is there any *stickied* threads that has some good tips for this?
    You need exactly two. Each injection will be 250mg....so you will be drawing out one ml. At two shots a week you'll need 20ml's to cover a 10 week cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wormwood View Post
    You need exactly two. Each injection will be 250mg....so you will be drawing out one ml. At two shots a week you'll need 20ml's to cover a 10 week cycle.
    Thank you my man! I really appreciate it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakleys View Post
    Thank you my man! I really appreciate it!
    No problem friend.

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    I personally imho would add the dbol for the first 4 wks thats just me though 20-40mg ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakleys View Post
    Thank you my man! I really appreciate it!

    you never get exactly 10 shots from each bottle,, i would get 3 (keep leftovers for next time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wormwood View Post
    At two shots a week you'll need 20ml's to cover a 10 week cycle.
    Same amount as 5g's of test e?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    you never get exactly 10 shots from each bottle,, i would get 3 (keep leftovers for next time)
    exactly...need 2 get 3...

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    Yeah you can do that, or if you lower your dose to 475mg's you'll get one extra shot or go down to 450mg's and get two extra shots. Depends upon your funds I guess.

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