Results 1 to 20 of 20

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    vaders4 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    501

    How to determine genetic potential?

    Obviously this is 100% dependent on your genetics, but let's use me as a test.

    My father was 6'1, 160lbs.
    My grandfather (on my fathers side) was 5'11, 150lbs.

    My grandfather (mothers side) was 5'5 5'6, 135lbs
    My mother is 5'4 120lbs.

    I am 6'0, 185lbs

    If I do not lift and diet hard, I am 150-155lbs.

    How much can I honestly grow? Can I hit 220lbs naturally? will my body even let me do that?

    How much muscle can one gain over their 'natural' weight??

    Everyone in my family is extremely lean, I guess I come from a long line of ectomorphs

    I am already 25lbs heavier than the largest male in my family, and 50lbs larger than the smallest.

    When will my genetics 'limit' my actual growth? There has to be a point somewhere, where it will stop.

  2. #2
    Hard.On's Avatar
    Hard.On is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    I seek Immortality
    Posts
    1,982
    How can one ansewr this question.

    What ansewr are you looking for?
    You have maxed out do a cycle?

  3. #3
    D7M's Avatar
    D7M
    D7M is offline AR-Elite Hall of Famer (RETIRED)
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Scylla and Charybdis
    Posts
    15,474
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by vaders4 View Post
    Obviously this is 100% dependent on your genetics, but let's use me as a test.

    My father was 6'1, 160lbs.
    My grandfather (on my fathers side) was 5'11, 150lbs.

    My grandfather (mothers side) was 5'5 5'6, 135lbs
    My mother is 5'4 120lbs.

    I am 6'0, 185lbs

    If I do not lift and diet hard, I am 150-155lbs.

    How much can I honestly grow? Can I hit 220lbs naturally? will my body even let me do that?

    How much muscle can one gain over their 'natural' weight??

    Everyone in my family is extremely lean, I guess I come from a long line of ectomorphs

    I am already 25lbs heavier than the largest male in my family, and 50lbs larger than the smallest.

    When will my genetics 'limit' my actual growth? There has to be a point somewhere, where it will stop.
    Based on the information you gave us, I calculate your genetic potential to be 6'0, 192.345876 lbs. Therefore, when you gain 7.345876 lbs of muscle (not fat or water), then, and only then can you use AAS.

    Best to you.

  4. #4
    BJJ's Avatar
    BJJ
    BJJ is offline Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Catacombs
    Posts
    5,431
    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Based on the information you gave us, I calculate your genetic potential to be 6'0, 192.345876 lbs. Therefore, when you gain 7.345876 lbs of muscle (not fat or water), then, and only then can you use AAS.

    Best to you.
    I did not know you were also erudite on maths!!!

  5. #5
    vaders4 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    501
    Lol..

    I don't mean it that way, I'm just curious as to how much you can naturally gain.

  6. #6
    Little Herc's Avatar
    Little Herc is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Never Never Land
    Posts
    326
    It would be hard to tell unless your family was at there genetic potential. An easier way to find out imho would be to find a lot of natural Bodybuilders around your height and avg there weight. Go for the low end unless u work out like a BB.

  7. #7
    chuckt12345's Avatar
    chuckt12345 is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Houston
    Posts
    4,218
    no tellin man,, how old are you.

  8. #8
    vaders4 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    501
    I'm 30

  9. #9
    MotoLifter's Avatar
    MotoLifter is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    ZooYork
    Posts
    1,322
    ithere is no hard and fast rule to figure that out bro. i dont even think there is a soft and slow rule.

    my parents are pretty small (mom 5'1" 115, dad 5'10 170) and im the smallest of thier 3 sons im 6'2 or 6'3 225-230 and still gaining well.

    i think there is alot more in that equation than just mom, dad and grandparents.


    Moto

  10. #10
    ranging1 is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    australia, melbourne
    Posts
    2,426
    lol its hard to determine

    HOWEVER its considered by medical studies and journals that the 300/400/500 benchmark is a maintable natural strength for the average male

    this means a 300 pound benchpress
    400 pound squat
    500 pound deadlift

    are considered NATURALLY acheievable and maintable

    obviosuly itll very depending on your genetics, but this is just a guidleline to a average males strength abilities

  11. #11
    nilrac is offline Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    508
    Attainable... yeah... average? Certainly not.

  12. #12
    chuckt12345's Avatar
    chuckt12345 is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Houston
    Posts
    4,218
    Quote Originally Posted by ranging1 View Post
    lol its hard to determine

    HOWEVER its considered by medical studies and journals that the 300/400/500 benchmark is a maintable natural strength for the average male

    this means a 300 pound benchpress
    400 pound squat
    500 pound deadlift

    are considered NATURALLY acheievable and maintable

    obviosuly itll very depending on your genetics, but this is just a guidleline to a average males strength abilities
    lol,, no way man,, average male weighs like 165

  13. #13
    Hazard's Avatar
    Hazard is offline AR-Elite Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    20,517
    I have my mothers european genes.....tall and skinny. I was 6'1" - 175lbs when I graduated highschool. getting up to 200lbs naturally was hard but I did it...... I then cycled and got over 237lbs over the years. I've never dropped below 220lbs since then except for when I was dropping weight for jiujitsu.

    When I cycle and go over 220lbs..... it seems like I can maintain it for a little while. It just slowly starts going back down and i'll eventually end back up at 220 or so LOL

    ~Haz~
    Failure is not and option..... ONLY beyond failure is - Haz

    Think beyond yourselves and remember this forum is for educated members to help advise SAFE usage of AAS, not just tell you what you want to hear
    - Knockout_Power

    NOT DOING SOURCE CHECKS......


  14. #14
    YouStupidBunnies's Avatar
    YouStupidBunnies is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    38
    It's a simple formula:
    Take your fathers weight after breakfast, but before his morning bowel movement.
    Take your mothers weight during her third menstrual cycle of the year at its heaviest flow.
    Add those two numbers together and divide by how many the square footage of your gym.
    Now, stand on your left foot, tilt your head to the right while sticking your tongue out towards your nose. Count until your left foot touches the groud.

    Write all that data on an old Walmart receipt and chew it with your protein drink.

    Forgot what we were talking about.

  15. #15
    chuckt12345's Avatar
    chuckt12345 is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Houston
    Posts
    4,218
    Quote Originally Posted by YouStupidBunnies View Post
    It's a simple formula:
    Take your fathers weight after breakfast, but before his morning bowel movement.
    Take your mothers weight during her third menstrual cycle of the year at its heaviest flow.
    Add those two numbers together and divide by how many the square footage of your gym.
    Now, stand on your left foot, tilt your head to the right while sticking your tongue out towards your nose. Count until your left foot touches the groud.

    Write all that data on an old Walmart receipt and chew it with your protein drink.

    Forgot what we were talking about.
    haa, nice

  16. #16
    Hazard's Avatar
    Hazard is offline AR-Elite Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    20,517
    Quote Originally Posted by YouStupidBunnies View Post
    It's a simple formula:
    Take your fathers weight after breakfast, but before his morning bowel movement.
    Take your mothers weight during her third menstrual cycle of the year at its heaviest flow.
    Add those two numbers together and divide by how many the square footage of your gym.
    Now, stand on your left foot, tilt your head to the right while sticking your tongue out towards your nose. Count until your left foot touches the groud.

    Write all that data on an old Walmart receipt and chew it with your protein drink.

    Forgot what we were talking about.
    LMFAO.... and there you have it.....

    ~Haz~
    Failure is not and option..... ONLY beyond failure is - Haz

    Think beyond yourselves and remember this forum is for educated members to help advise SAFE usage of AAS, not just tell you what you want to hear
    - Knockout_Power

    NOT DOING SOURCE CHECKS......


  17. #17
    polly56's Avatar
    polly56 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    317
    Quote Originally Posted by YouStupidBunnies View Post
    It's a simple formula:
    Take your fathers weight after breakfast, but before his morning bowel movement.
    Take your mothers weight during her third menstrual cycle of the year at its heaviest flow.
    Add those two numbers together and divide by how many the square footage of your gym.
    Now, stand on your left foot, tilt your head to the right while sticking your tongue out towards your nose. Count until your left foot touches the groud.

    Write all that data on an old Walmart receipt and chew it with your protein drink.

    Forgot what we were talking about.
    hahahahahaha! amazing!

  18. #18
    vaders4 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    501
    hahah you tool bag

  19. #19
    darkcrayz is offline Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    socal
    Posts
    545
    youre getting started late. your test levels are starting to drop. first i would get some blood work and see where your test levels are.

    im 6'1", 26, 255, 18-20% bodyfat. small joints, runner's body i got from my Italian mother. its possible to put more weight on then you have now. just eat and train. or eat, train, take steroids .

  20. #20
    Bossman's Avatar
    Bossman is offline Bossman - AR Monitor
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    3,400
    Quote Originally Posted by vaders4 View Post

    I am 6'0, 185lbs
    How old are you? Post a pic and you will get an better idea from those that are experienced if you are at or near you genetic limit. There are some thin ass structures out there. But I would bet you could put on more weight naturally.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •