which steriods are better to take

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 12:20 AM

hey guys just a quick question.. Is there much difference between taking and animal remedy to a human remedy? and is it not wise to use the animal steriods ?
thanks

***D7M*** · 01-23-2010, 12:41 AM

I'm really not sure what you're asking...

**Mr.Rose** · 01-23-2010, 12:44 AM

steroids are steroids, like, trenbolone acetate will be trenbolone acetate whether its in the form of a pellet for animals or an injectable form for humans. To be fit for human use it must be sterile and 'clean', but the chemical is still the same, but the form of administration will be different and so on.

For example Equipoise is a drug used for horses, but humans use the same drug and receive similar benefits to it.

But no one here would condone its uses, as no one here does steroids, we are here to learn how to correctly administer it to our nice and muscly lab rats,

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**Mr.Rose** · 01-23-2010, 12:46 AM

to add:

i can see where your coming from, in Aus the ability to get human grade products can be extremely difficult and expensive, and thus obtaining animal grade and then converting over is a much more logical route.... if you know what your doing.

If that's what you meant then go make some friends down in the steroid lab sections, they'll help you out.

But if you want to use animal grade Test for example, make sure its 100% test with no fillers, etc in it... i.e, know what your taking... and then good luck because high chance its not sterile enough to be ethically administered to humans.

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 12:57 AM

hey guys.. just wondering the difference between the animal steroids and the human steroids ? and would like some peoples views on the animal gear if they have take it ...

**Mr.Rose** · 01-23-2010, 12:59 AM

look at your other post, i answered this.

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 01:08 AM

hey ... i couldnt find it.. new to this site thanks

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 01:13 AM

thanks for that ... that kinda put me abit off trying it ..

**Mr.Rose** · 01-23-2010, 01:27 AM

what type of animal grade are we talking about? Veterinary grade? or cattle grade? Let me know exactly what your talking about, which product (dont put in brand name) and ill help you out.

**Mr.Rose** · 01-23-2010, 01:27 AM

no problem, your fine.

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**KZRSOIZE** · 01-23-2010, 01:29 AM

EAT like an animal!!!

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 04:04 AM

Its VR Testo L.A .. its vetinarian. its 100mg/ml and says on the lable used for dogs, horses and teaser cattle..
i also have a vial of deca 50 with the same sort of information.. there both 10 ml sealed vials.
thanks for your help

**Sheven** · 01-23-2010, 05:32 AM

veterinary steroids have lower standards than human steroids. vet steroids are at the human standards of beggining of 85-90. is safe to use if you get real stuff.

**Mr.Rose** · 01-23-2010, 05:34 AM

VR Testo is testosteron cypionate if i recall. Yeh you can hit that no problem, they are sterile injections.

Buts the dosage on them? two vials at 10ml seems like not enough for a cycle.? When you get 20 posts and can pm, ill pm yah.

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 07:15 PM

yeh its testosterone cypionate . the only kinda dosage on the bottle is it says equivalent to 70mg/ml, testosterone .

**stevey_6t9** · 01-23-2010, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by dermie

yeh its testosterone cypionate. the only kinda dosage on the bottle is it says equivalent to 70mg/ml, testosterone.

thats because cyp has a long ester and you get less testosterone per mg. if your using vet grade ur going to turn into a sheep over night! jus kidding.

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 07:19 PM

you think the deca 50 is good aswell? it says Active constituent: Nandrolone Deconate 50mg/ml.
yeh i only grabbed 2 vials to see what they were.. i will get more once i find out if they are fine to use..

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 07:20 PM

haha thanks stevey. does that mean that i have to up the dosage ?

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 07:22 PM

cheers dude... yeh its legit stuff

**bjpennnn** · 01-23-2010, 07:25 PM

i am an animal, and i take steroids so i guess they are animal steroids.

**stevey_6t9** · 01-23-2010, 07:30 PM

sorry i just re read your post. what does it say on your bottle regarding its strength? does it only say 70mg/ml???

**jsweezy** · 01-23-2010, 07:31 PM

so are animal steroids just not up to the same degree of purity as human steroids? like, not as filtered?

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 07:34 PM

narh the test say 100mg/ml testosterone cypionate . equivalent to 70mg/ml testosterone

**stevey_6t9** · 01-23-2010, 07:37 PM

ok thought so. yep thats fine.

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 07:37 PM

i believe it depends on the grade of animal steroids you get.

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 07:39 PM

how many ml's a week would be sufficient?

**Mr.Rose** · 01-23-2010, 08:08 PM

depends on your cycle. Anywhere from 250-2000mg per week (the latter for professionals and experienced lifter) 500mg is a good start.

Start a new thread and ask for advice, state that you have what you have and how to use it. But they will drill you if your underage, just a heads up, haha. But theres no age limit for roids, we just want to ensure that we give you healthy, sound advice.

I have no experience in deca , so i can't help you with that. But im sure others can.

Wait you grabbed vials? as in you bought them or where in the position to take them? If its the latter, you deserve a thumbs up, you saved thousands of dollars, haha. I'll pm you when you get over 20 posts.

**Big** · 01-23-2010, 08:10 PM

threads merged.

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 08:25 PM

im 22 been training for 5 years.. but 2 good solid years body fat is at about 18 and im 5'10 weight 82 - 85kgs.

**JGymlover** · 01-23-2010, 08:25 PM

does anyone know whats up with QV??? Ive been seeing alot of it around my location and was wondering if its real.. i know a few guys on it and seem to be getting sick results!!! looks like the real deal with correct logos and tops as well as holograms... anyone here anything on this QV alert?

**dermie** · 01-23-2010, 08:28 PM

haha narh i brought them .. they were pretty cheap and apparently there readily available wheneva i need.. so a good source. thanks for ur help.. look forward to speaking to you shortly.

**laduem88** · 01-23-2010, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

i am an animal, and i take steroids so i guess they are animal steroids.

well said sir

**hunterwells** · 01-23-2010, 08:51 PM

if youve got 50mg/ml nandrolone decanoate, you would need to inject at least 6ml a week to get any good. and really id do more like 10-12ml a week. low dosed stuff can be frustrating with the volume of oil youre having to inject...