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01-28-2010, 10:03 AM #1
30 Day Burst Cycle - What does the PCT look like?
Using short esters - Prop, NPP and Dianabol .
30 day run. Are there any experienced burst cycle users who would like to comment on the PCT?
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Marcus are you out there? Titanium? Ferris? ... Bueller? ... Anyone???Last edited by Kdub; 01-28-2010 at 10:21 AM.
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Bumping cause I am wondering the same
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I'm a huge fan of burst cycles after I tried it. I'd run it longer than 4 weeks, though. At least 6-8 weeks, imo.
Are you priming before the cycle? What doses are you running?
And I don't think the pct will change dramatically because of the length of the cycle, you'll still be shut down.
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01-29-2010, 12:06 PM #4
Ive achieved my best gains while implementing short burst cycles, once I found this process i never went back to the general way of cycling. One thing is a must and thats to prime before the cycle, you must prime the body for 6-8 weeks IMHO.
Ive written some threads on short burst cycles, check them out and you will get loads of info from them, for PCT just use what as worked in the past no need to change anything. Dosage and designing the cycle correctly are also main areas you need to get right.
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01-29-2010, 12:28 PM #5
if you have never primed tryy it for sure, it makes it so much better on cycle. plus it gets you in the mindset to get serious for your cycle.
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01-29-2010, 12:39 PM #6Anabolic Member
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I am with all 3 prior posts.
56 cycles.
PCT using what has worked prior.
56 days of pct/off time and I am back on.
21st day off tomorrow. Will start priming in 21 more days.
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02-04-2010, 06:59 AM #7
Here is my short cycle:
Weeks 1-5; 700 mgs/wk Prop
Weeks 1-5: 600 mgs/wk NPP
40 mg/day Dbol
I didn't feel well with Dbol at 50 mgs/day.
Injections are daily.
Initially I was going to do a 9 week with close to half the dosages then I read Marcus' post on Burst Cycles.
As I was one week in I did not prime but this is my first cycle in 13 years so I am looking at it as if I have primed for 13 years with fresh receptors.
I am going to start PCT 2 days after last injection. I am going to run Clen throughout the PCT as it is simply magic for me and quite anti-catabolic with unreal strength gains.
I will come off for 30-35 days including PCT time and use this as a prime. I will maintain a very strict diet for this 35 day prime and keep it low carb. I do really well with a low carb diet anyways.
Next burst cycle will entail a 30 day cycle:
Enan and Deca frontloaded - something like 1000 mg of each the over the first 2 days.
5000 mg Enan over 14 days
4000 mg Deca over 14 days
1st week Prop, last week Prop as well
Winstrol 30-40 mg/day for all 30 days
Run PCT
Then off for a two month vacation back to the West.
Your comments are welcomed.
I am doing my best to acquire Paul's books to get a full understanding.
Marcus I sent you a pm. I need help designing the right cycle and prime phase.
p.s. Am 14 days into this cycle and up 13 lbs with little bloat thanks to .25ml Arimidex every 3-4 days. Strength is getting ridiculous so am very cautious. Zero sides or shrinkage but sex drive has just now increased considerably. Am not aggressive or irritated at all which is surprising.Last edited by Kdub; 02-04-2010 at 07:06 AM.
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02-04-2010, 07:11 AM #8
You haven't primed for 13 years and priming needs to be done correctly for shorter cycle to be really effective, priming needs to be done for 6-8 weeks before the cycle. I also wouldn't class that a burst cycle.
You also need to be off cycle for longer than 30-35days and you cant really prime correctly in that time anyway for the second cycle, your going to be on a roller coaster with your hormones.
You also dont want to be running deca on a short burst cycle, infact you want to re-think what your doing because none of it is set out right and is awful.
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02-04-2010, 07:31 AM #9
Ok Marcus. thank you. What do I need to do to get this right?
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bump
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02-25-2010, 10:07 AM #11
Bump as well, i am a big fan of shorter burst cycles, they allow quicker recovery in my opinion. I have several friends who use for their own reasons and they don't even use pct, and they all have always rebounded after cycling. I myself have also done this without pct and have rebounded a few times fully. Not that i will ever do it again, we just didn't know what pct was when we started this stuff.
Good luck bro,
"dirty d"
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02-25-2010, 10:37 AM #12
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02-25-2010, 02:42 PM #13Senior Member
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very good infor here, looks like the pct will still be similar to longer cycles.
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02-25-2010, 03:39 PM #14
^^^yes, the pct is the same through and through. Your test shuts down within the first two weeks, so the sam pct is needed when coming off of a short cycle or a long one
"dirty d"
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02-25-2010, 05:12 PM #15
Marcus, can you explain what is priming?
Thanks,
Marko
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